Telegraph: Labour moves to ban puberty blockers permanently

[ResisterOfTwaddleRex]

Wes is getting it in the neck online from the TRAs. He should stand firm.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/12/labour-ban-puberty-blockers-permanently-trans-stance/

"A ban on puberty blockers could be made permanentt_ as the Labour party takes a harder stance on transgender issues, The Telegraph can reveal.
Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, intends to stop powerful hormone blockerss_ being given to children via any means, subject to the outcome of a legal hearing.
Laws to ban the blockers being supplied to children by private or off-shore clinics were passed by his predecessor, Victoria Atkins, in emergency legislation ahead of the general election.
These are due to expire on Sept 3 and the new Government has to decide whether to pass a law to make it permanent.._
It is understood that Labour will now seek to renew the ban with a view to making it permanent."

I hope with this ban these children can go back to being goths for a few years until they grow up, glowering furiously at their parents and grandparents at family BBQs.

You've just described my DD to a tee and I'm immensely grateful that's the direction she's taken, so far at least 🤞 She's also autistic and a lesbian so I've been agonisingly aware of the risk but so far she's reassuringly GC.

Bearing in mind that this lobby thinks even women being raped and excluded doesn't equal admitting a problem, there would be no sufficient evidence of harm big enough.

This is a group that believe reality is created by feelings, and that facts and material reality can be identified away. Nuff said really.

They think their gotcha arguments about the Cass report should be enough to render it invalid.

I was wallowing through X, very early this morning, but I'm pretty certain I saw some blue and pink flagged posts from a Bristol org that helps refugees now saying that they could give TRA's advice about how to leave the country!

I'm fairly confident that it wasn't a dream.

There seem to be a lot of very angry blokes out there; vipers please be careful.

If incels wants to leave the country and find a better life somewhere, I will wish them good luck.

And wouldn’t it have been good to have seen those most convincing studies mentioned? But they haven’t mentioned them.

What Red said.

Didn't Cass also point that out the dubious quality of some so-called research?

If the peers in question are fellow transactivist social scientists then it doesn't add any value. Just a queer theory circle jerk.

It's proper, unbiased medical research we need here. If it's even ethical to do medical damage to a physically healthy child in study context.

The first thing may be to properly track cohorts with different kinds of mental health support. If the majority recover from their dysphoria, it's going to be extremely hard to justify blanket trials of drugs. The next stage would be to try to narrow down which children don't recover naturally and trial drugs on a targetted cohort. But transactivist communities might try to scupper that by teaching children how to lie to their doctors.

I actually wrote to Wes Streeting the day after the election. He is not my MP but I wanted to thank him for what he had done recently . And for admitting he had been wrong in the past . That takes courage , i told him he now had the respect of millions like me and not to worry about his reduced majority.

But transactivist communities might try to scupper that by teaching children how to lie to their doctors.

They've already been doing that. Mermaids would coach children on what to say to the doctors at GIDS.

He sure is. Phil Moorehouse , A Different Bias YouTube has been swamped by TRAs. It is quite bizarre really as Phil is a total Blairite and Streeting is his kind of Labour MP. Which just goes to reinforce that this is not left / right issue ever. Wes is a duplicitous fucker of course. I hate him on general principle and wouldn't be surprised if he folded like a pack of cards. Lacking moral fibre....

Indeed.

Yes, but that’s who these drugs are meant for, to relieve a genuine health condition. Labour is (I hope) just aiming to end their misuse. Thank god.

That Reddit thread is truly eye opening. The hyperbole and drama pretty clearly indicates a whole lotta personality disorders and / or shockingly poor mental health that is totally unrelated to being trans.

Being trans isn't a magical cure for mental disorders but until recently it was a pretty sweet identity for those with narcissistic traits. These people will fight to the death to uphold this worldview where they are the sacred caste. Who cares if some confused kids have to be sacrificed in the process.

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-california-gender-academic-inspired-pedophilic-fantasy-on-castrating-enslaving-young-boys/

https://reduxx.info/top-trans-medical-association-collaborated-with-castration-child-abuse-fetishists/

^ worth keeping these in mind when considering who supports young children having their puberty eradicated

Really am LOLing at the idea that TRAs would find a more sympathetic reception and a better life in - Rwanda.

It's fair to take a wild punt that the misguided fools advocating the prescription of some very potent drugs with really nasty side effects have never themselves taken those drugs.

I was given Buserelin as as long down regulation protocol drug for IVF. I honestly didn't know whether I'd make it to the end of my cycle, because this stuff is brutal. Severe short-term memory loss, brain fog, feeling so severely depressed that you don't feel able to go on - all these are proven side effects which I personally experienced. And all this for a relatively short period, compared with the length of time for which it would have to be taken as a 'puberty blocker' (ugh). Treatment with drugs this potent should never be taken lightly. Needless to say all these side effects miraculously lifted once I came off the drug.

Odd how these very legitimate concerns have never once been raised - or likely even been considered - by the vociferous trans rights activists bandying around dangerous rhetoric like 'you are killing trans kids' .

How unforgivably (should be criminally) irresponsible. Concerned with the welfare of vulnerable kids? I don't think so.

https://old.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1e287b0/our_new_health_ministers_some_alarming_info

Some good news spotted on the linked forum:

So I’ve been looking into the ministers that Wes has appointed to his team.

[...]

Karin Smyth is minister for health covering secondary care. She follows a number of [...] accounts on X like For Women Scotland, Transgender Trend and Fair Play for Women. She doesn't follow any [trans activist] accounts.

Gillian Merron is minister for patient safety, women and mental health. She made [a] response to the Cass review in which she supports the ban on hormone blockers.

His reduced majority has nothing to do with trans afaik. It's more because he is not in synch with his local constituency on other matters

The only thing these fantastists need giving is a boot up the arse in the form of a hefty dose of reality.

Women's position is increasingly hardening. The majority of high profile cases which have made it into court have seen us win. The doubling-down on this cause has seen both Nicola Sturgeon and Penny Mordaunt (in the last leadership race) fall at least in part on the GI sword. The pressure women are keeping up on politicians have resulted in the slow but steady about-face we are currently experiencing. And Cass appears to have sealed the deal as far as Wes Streeting is concerned.

Even in some NHS trusts there is subtle change. I was pleasantly surprised by the clear and common-sense language contained in my latest invitation for cervical screening. It referred to women. It suggested that trans men were strongly advised to have the test. It also advised that trans women would have no need to do any such thing. Baby steps, but it's progress.

We are not putting up, shutting up, or going anywhere. And our political classes and some key UK institutions are gradually becoming wise to the fact. There are perhaps reasons for cautious optimism IF we keep pushing back to the same extent as we have over the past few years.

Rwanda is a safe country doncha know!

Absolutely. According to the Wikipedia article on LGBT rights in Rwanda:

“Transgender Rwandans face legal challenges. Rwandan law forbids changing legal gender. While crossdressing is not de jure illegal in Rwanda, transgender people are often charged with unrelated offenses and can face violent detention.”

oh, and:

”Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people in Rwanda face legal challenges not experienced by non-LGBT residents. While neither homosexuality nor homosexual acts are illegal, homosexuality is considered a taboo topic, and there is no significant public discussion of this issue in any region of the country and LGBT people still face stigmatization among the broader population.[1] No anti-discrimination laws are afforded to LGBT citizens,[1] and same-sex marriages are not recognized by the state, as the Constitution of Rwanda provides that "[o]nly civil monogamous marriage between a man and a woman is recognized".[2] LGBT Rwandans have reported being harassed, blackmailed, and even arrested by the police under various laws dealing with public order and morality”

Thinking about this, it's an incredibly good sign. Streeting has been open about changing his mind on this and now recognising the harms that the trans movement is doing, so Starmer has done well in putting him in charge of health instead of someone else. It tells me Starmer is aware of which way the wind is blowing. Its a savvy move.

@Madcats not a dream

That is fucking diabolical on all levels. How dare they suggest that the UK is a dangerous country for trans. Likening the UK with countries that have very real human rights abuse is really scraping the barrel. Fear mongering towards the very people they are supposedly supporting. It is shameful and very sinister.