Telegraph: Labour moves to ban puberty blockers permanently

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Wes is getting it in the neck online from the TRAs. He should stand firm.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/12/labour-ban-puberty-blockers-permanently-trans-stance/

"A ban on puberty blockers could be made permanentt_ as the Labour party takes a harder stance on transgender issues, The Telegraph can reveal.
Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, intends to stop powerful hormone blockerss_ being given to children via any means, subject to the outcome of a legal hearing.
Laws to ban the blockers being supplied to children by private or off-shore clinics were passed by his predecessor, Victoria Atkins, in emergency legislation ahead of the general election.
These are due to expire on Sept 3 and the new Government has to decide whether to pass a law to make it permanent.._
It is understood that Labour will now seek to renew the ban with a view to making it permanent."

Fucking hell.

The idea that the NHS or whoever is covering up suicides is laughable, every suicide is subject to an inquest that is held in public.

Behold the insanity. Trans reddit really thinks the government will silently kill trans people and family won't notice

"They don't need all the public onboard, just enough and the others will just nod along as their trans family members "disappear"."

How did peoples grasp of reality get so bad?

or

"This is worse than Section28.

This is "lets not treat AIDS.""

And:

"These measures have already killed 16 trans children."

And:

"You don't pretend to do a genocide as a 4D chess move. You do it because you wanna do it."

Its one of the elephants in the room we're not supposed to mention. We're not talking about well people.

Never heard any man appear keen on such a hideous thing. But that's not surprising - truly

"Wes Streeting is nasty and perverse and on Tufton Street's payroll", apparently - according to the delightful Joss Prior. Streeting needs to join the queue.....everyone who says "no" or deviates from the script in any way, is too.

Me too. But prescribing GnRH analogues/blockers in such cases is unaffected by the current ban. The banning order only covers prescribing "as a treatment for gender dysphoria or gender incongruence."

Other clinical uses (such as in precocious puberty, growth disorders or in prostate and breast cancers) continue as they did before. I'd be very surprised if Labour decided to change that.

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2024/727/pdfs/uksiem_20240727_en_001.pdf

Tbf, @Valdor re: "How did peoples grasp of reality get so bad?" the people up in arms about this very sensible proposal think they can change sex and disagreement equals hate, so there's that.

Jolyon Maugham

These measures will kill trans children .

It is time to stop listening to that ridiculous sort of statement.

Yes. The drama and hyperbole is off the scale. Always.

And this outpouring is from adults who claim to care about those children, who must be terrified by it.

One problem is of doctors prescribing as though there is a male disorder, say, when the patient is actually a female, but by sleight of hand a faulty male, needing the treatment.

I have not put it well, but it was mentioned on a thread here. It may have been noticed in Australia.

Brilliant

If you didn't know JM was crazy like a fox, he's just confirmed it with that tantrum.

How does an adult male who has had sufficient education to become a barrister come to believe that puberty blockers are so pivotal? What has he got to lose by acknowledging their harms? And how has he convinced himself the iatrogenic effects are a better option than watchful waiting?

It's rebarbative. I take it the hints that JM was dropping as to bombshell revelations in documents that GLP weren't meant to see have not, as yet, come to fruition?

The responsibility for such disordered thinking as that on display in some of the Reddit comments lies with those who are pursuing a dangerous personal agenda. They persuade young and vulnerable children that society wishes them harm and that they're to align with their new families and accept everything that they're told about a genocide happening in plain sight. It's almost as if they are blithe to the mental and emotional harm it causes those people who accept those falsehoods.

One wonders if people who continually hound the government and waste court time like this, could / should be deemed vexatious litigants.

Wow! Of course, there has been a certain level of mis-education in this area, both in schools and universities over the past 5-10 years. Can this account for the level of misunderstanding on display?

They just can't see it can they?

Will some children experiencing gender distress/dysphoria be very upset by this news?

Yes they will.

But the reason for that distress is because for years they have been fed a myth that you can change sex, that the first steps in doing so are to block their puberty and if they do this they will feel better.

They've been peddled this narrative by healthcare professionals, charities, social media and in some cases their own parents.

Now this myth has been busted yet many of the people who should have supported them in an evidenced based way to start with are simply doubling down. Not in these children's best interests but because they can't accept the fact they are wrong.

So is it any wonder why these children will be worried about this news? They are being told by people who claim to advocate for them that they will die without this treatment.

That's a message that's going to hit anyone's mental health.

It's not Cass or Streeting who's hurting these children. It's the lies of TRA's who are so personally invested in this ideology they refuse to see that THEY are the root cause of harm and distress.

HELEN JOYCE: Something you may not have thought of is that there are a lot of people who can't move on from this. And that's the people who have transitioned their own children. So those people are going to be like the Japanese soldiers who were on Pacific islands and didn't know the war was over. They've got to fight forever. This is another reason why this is the worst, worst, worst social contagion that we'll ever have experienced

Great news, should never have been allowed in first place but I'm glad they're tackling this quickly

The picture has changed in the wake of the Cass report. Labour will have taken this stance because they know, despite their namby pamby protestations as to who is or isn't a woman, it's more than their political life and the reputation of the party not to.

I suspect there's a long series of, or possibly a group litigation against the Tavistock et al already nearly cresting the hill.

Whether Labour are pretending otherwise or not, they get it. By this stage they'd have to be completely stupid not to.

I don’t think there’s any proposal to restrict current licensed use.

(That’s not to say the safety and efficacy in precocious puberty shouldn’t be reviewed as part of normal pharmacovigilance processes. )