Telegraph: Labour moves to ban puberty blockers permanently

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Wes is getting it in the neck online from the TRAs. He should stand firm.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/12/labour-ban-puberty-blockers-permanently-trans-stance/

"A ban on puberty blockers could be made permanentt_ as the Labour party takes a harder stance on transgender issues, The Telegraph can reveal.
Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, intends to stop powerful hormone blockerss_ being given to children via any means, subject to the outcome of a legal hearing.
Laws to ban the blockers being supplied to children by private or off-shore clinics were passed by his predecessor, Victoria Atkins, in emergency legislation ahead of the general election.
These are due to expire on Sept 3 and the new Government has to decide whether to pass a law to make it permanent.._
It is understood that Labour will now seek to renew the ban with a view to making it permanent."

Encouraging progress from Wes Streeting and the Labour Party. It is their turn now to face the aggressive wrath and experience what has been til now mainly been thrown at the women who have stood against the TRAs. I really hope there won't be sacrifices given in other areas. I am hoping Labour realise that whilst the TRAs are loud and good at campaigning, they are a small voter base. Well done powerful women everywhere for turning this rotten ship.

In many contexts this would be mildly amusing tantrums at not getting his own way.
These ghouls are putting kids at risk with their suicide narrative, counter to all suicide reporting guidelines. When they succeed in getting kids to self harm, they will present it as proving their case when what it really proves is their culpability.
I really hope I'm wrong.

The only people damaging children is those who tell children that there is something wrong with them if they don't fit old fashioned stereotypes types of gender, that can only be fixed with life long medication and brutal surgeries.

They go on to compound this harm by adding in and encouraging suicide ideations to an already vulnerable group of young people.

I hate to see MPs getting abuse and Wes is getting it by the bucket load. I only hope that this puts the 'both sides' nonsense to bed once and for all.

Maugham is so unhinged over this that if he has any family who aren't gender-addled, they should be considering some sort of intervention.

" I am a Research Fellow focused on the health & well-being of trans children. I have published 16 peer reviewed articles. I know 100s of trans children, those directly impacted by puberty blocker ban. If any MPs want to get an accurate briefing - get in touch" ( Dr Cal Horton)

It would be interesting to see these 'peer reviewed' studies.

https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=F-4iS6UAAAAJ&hl=en

"The research is underpinned by a trans-emancipatory theoretical framework, building on wider work on emancipatory research . Here, a trans-emancipatory framework is one that recognizes and takes account of the role of cisnormativity and pathologization of gender diversity in upholding structural injustice"

This may be of interest. TransActual blogged about their judicial review of the puberty blocker ban:

https://transactual.org.uk/blog/2024/07/12/initial-statement-following-the-hearing-into-the-blocker-ban/

And live tweeted the court hearing:

https://x.com/TransActualCIC/status/1811700012222386388

https://x.com/TransActualCIC/status/1811703013079171136

So it's total woo woo pseudo religious bollocks masquerading as science then?

"The research received ethical approval from the author’s university. The inclusion criteria for parent interviewees were (a) being a parent or carer of a socially transitioned trans child in the UK, (b) their child having socially transitioned under the age of 11 years old (c) their child currently being under age 16. To recruit parental participants, details about the study were shared in closed online spaces in six UK support groups for parents of trans children. Additional parental interviewees were brought in via snowball sampling, through introduction from other members of these parent support groups. Access to hard-to-reach families and children was enabled by the author’s positionality as a non-binary parent of a trans child, helping overcome trust related barriers to hearing from this cohort. The author is a member of four of these closed online spaces and posted there directly, with other parents sharing details on two other groups"

One of those tweets says:

JC: The Cass report recognised a proven benefit of puberty blockers. It was clear it was not recommending a complete ban on puberty blockers.

That's a total and utter misrepresentation.

It didn't recommend a total ban because of the lack of evidence. As in because there was no evidence in this area it couldn't recommend a bad but the evidence that does exist is so alarming it leads to the conclusion that side effects are not being taken seriously enough.

Sounds like transitioning a child is most often led by the parents......

"Parents reported that a majority of their trans children, average age 11 (range 6–16), were aware of the existence of blockers. Most parents had discussed blockers with their child years in advance of puberty starting, with several parents emphasizing their view that knowledge about the existence of puberty blockers was important for reducing their child’s anxiety. “I think if you wait until your child is distressed, and then start talking about puberty blockers, you have unnecessarily caused them harm” . Several parents described their pre-pubertal child as desperately wanting reassurance about ability to access blockers"

Reading that sub again today, they're getting increasingly unhinged.

Genocide, the blood of dead children, Rwanda, and pizza:

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The majority of people don't know how bad things are for us, and they aren't going to be on board with us telling them that the Health Secretary is complicit in trans genocide.

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I understand that my country despises and hates me. So I'll make a life elsewhere. I'd take the now dead Rwanda deal. Fuck the UK and fuck the British.

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I hate this country. Wes Streeting is a callous coward and by engaging in this transphobic bullshit the blood of kids who die on NHS waiting lists is on his hands too. Starmer too. I hope that they receive back any misery they've caused tenfold.

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They order our suffering like they're calling up Dominos to order a pizza. I hate them so much.

As soon as suicide or self harm is mentioned....the gate to puberty blockers is opened wide:

"One parent found the assessment process for referral for blockers perplexing, with clinicians asking their child a lot of vague questions around identity and general self-image without asking specifically how their child felt about puberty.But like, immediately after I was like, if you want to know how they feel about puberty, ‘hey (to child), how do you feel about puberty?’ And my child’s response was ‘I would rather die’. And like, that was the only time I actually saw an emotional response from this guy. Like he, his eyes kind of went wide. And I was like, ‘that is the information you need’"

Basically, Dr Cal's 'research' is totally under-pinned by a 'trans affirmative' approach, without any of the usual mental health exploration that would be expected with distressed children. It amounts to " I want puberty blockers now, and I'll say and do whatever I have to to say and do to get them"

Well done to Wes Streeting. No doubt he is Starmer’s planned fall-guy for the abusive TRAs but I think he’s tough enough to handle it.

Puberty blockers are viewed as the ultimate panacea for the woes of socially awkward, autistic, same-sex attracted and traumatised children, mainly girls. Of course, the blockers won’t magically fix any problems but will instead irreversibly damage these kids. I hope with this ban these children can go back to being goths for a few years until they grow up, glowering furiously at their parents and grandparents at family BBQs. This is the natural order of things.

"In trans children’s healthcare there is so much intentionally bad science, so much science that fundamentally misunderstands (or chooses to misrepresent) trans experiences.The quantity of bad science overwhelms – we challenge some, whilst other pieces of bad science slip through undetected"

https://growinguptransgender.com

All very…

Totally objective and unbiased then…

Access to hard-to-reach families and children was enabled by the author’s positionality as a non-binary parent of a trans child,

Nah, hard to reach / seldom heard groups don't have the luxury of trans beliefs. Maybe some noisy activists identified as hard to reach?

"A lot of the NHS has laready been 'privatised'."

Yes, much of it under the Blair/Brown Government.

"the research is underpinned by a trans-emancipatory theoretical framework, building on wider work on emancipatory research..."

How to say "My research is based on my own preconceived ideas and is looking for confirmatory evidence" without saying "My research is based on my own preconceived ideas and is looking for confirmatory evidence"!

Yes, I imagine that was the information the doctor needed. At that point he realised that the child had been trained by their parent, that none of this was coming from the child and it was all about the parent's wishes.

The second tweet:

JC: The defendant highlights a risk hypothesised a risk to neurological maturation. And risks to bone density. But it is unclear whether this is long term, there is a lack of evidence.

So we should have evidence that there is no harm before giving this treatment to any more children.

Do they think that 'lack of evidence' of harm means that we should just keep giving this to children because the harm has not (yet) been proven?

Do they think that 'lack of evidence' of harm means that we should just keep giving this to children because the harm has not (yet) been proven?

Yes.