Telegraph: Labour moves to ban puberty blockers permanently

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Wes is getting it in the neck online from the TRAs. He should stand firm.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/12/labour-ban-puberty-blockers-permanently-trans-stance/

"A ban on puberty blockers could be made permanentt_ as the Labour party takes a harder stance on transgender issues, The Telegraph can reveal.
Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, intends to stop powerful hormone blockerss_ being given to children via any means, subject to the outcome of a legal hearing.
Laws to ban the blockers being supplied to children by private or off-shore clinics were passed by his predecessor, Victoria Atkins, in emergency legislation ahead of the general election.
These are due to expire on Sept 3 and the new Government has to decide whether to pass a law to make it permanent.._
It is understood that Labour will now seek to renew the ban with a view to making it permanent."

At the end of this panel Dr Michael Briggs credits Mumsnet. 💪

Well done, ladies! 👏

Go wims!

I'm not sure if Labour will buckle or not.

On the one hand, Cass, which is comprehensive, coherent, and hard to argue with. And also the little issue of their landslide resulting from the votes of about 21% of the electorate (34% of the 60-ish% who actually went and voted). There are a lot of voters out there who didn't vote Tory, but didn't vote Labour either: they chose not to vote at all, which says a lot after the fucking fiasco that was Truss, and other Tory foul-ups (that is, you'd have thought they'd have voted Labour, but they didn't). If Labour cocks up big time, they'll be voting Tory again next time. They also have the people who voted LibDem to consider: some of them could easily sway back to the right as well.

On t'other, they have no ££ in the kitty and will have to do something to placate the various loons who have supported them. I can see a lot of legislation going through that has been pressed for by various 'progressive' bodies, because legislation is cheap compared to providing services.

Labour is going to have to weigh up the options. Will they get more votes next time by pissing off that segment of the electorate that might stray back to the Tories but delighting the more extreme Left types, or will they do better to chase the wavering voters and ignore the wailing and gnashing of teeth all over Reddit and X?

But then, I have the political instincts of a stunned starfish, so there will be something glaring missing from my efforts at analysis.

I hope his true. Just need confirmation from the government.

Hope so.much this is true. Children should not be being experimented on

Wes Streeting is going to use the services of private providers to help reduce waiting lists - to many, a pragmatic approach. That's a very different thing to privatising the NHS - a wholesale transfer of a public service driven by the needs of citizens to a corporate entity in business to generate profit for shareholders.

In The Times:

Labour to make ban on puberty blockers permanent.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea91dfae-fbb6-4e73-910a-20a74d5f1306?shareToken=4d9cef88e5196b9badb67408f1f143eff_

Not sure about the FK but the end of the Guardian article states ‘judgment is expected at a later date. The Labour government has said it will seek to make the ban permanent, subject to the outcome of the case’. It doesn’t say who says this though.

Am I misreading those tweets that Maya collated, or are some of them actually advocating violence against Wes?

They also have on that Labour subreddit before, I reported someone and they got a temp ban for it.

They will want to give trans activists something in my opinion and it will be a portion of women's rights that will be sacrificed for this.

Agree with this.

Excellent news that the new Labour gov are considering this- thank you Wes Streeting, keep going!

Streeting said: “We will always put the safety of children first. Our approach will continue to be informed by Dr Cass’s review, which found there was insufficient evidence to show puberty blockers were safe for under-18s.
“This ban brings the private sector in line with the NHS. We are committed to providing young people with the evidence-led care that they deserve.”

This is a great start as a Health Sec

Would he like me to help pack his bags for him.

I'll even feed the cat and water the begonias if it would help.

I’m so sorry for what you went through. But thank you for sharing your painful story 💐- flowers are inadequate I know.

I am surprised by Wes Streeting making this statement and it’s got me thinking, and making a prediction. I think a Labour think-tank has had a sit down ahead of their inevitable success at this election and have come to a very simplistic approach:

We will win ground in certain quarters by upholding the idea that medicating ‘trans’ children is wrong and that explorative therapy is the way forward. This will cause a huge hoo ha in certain quarters but we can use this to…

Placate and advocate for trans adults by allowing trans women to access female spaces - adult human females can make adjustments to accommodate those trans women who were unlucky enough to be born male.

But I’m happy if this is a win for halting the prescription of puberty blockers to children who have been told that if they don’t get them, then suic**e is the only alternative. Because it would appear this what children are being told - which is fucking horrifically irresponsible.

That has nothing to do with Labour. What is quoted from the court is explaining the rationale that the former Health Secretary has for the temporary ban.

From the article:

Government lawyers said that, subject to the outcome of the case, it was “minded to renew the emergency banning order with a view to converting it to a permanent ban, subject to appropriate consultation”.

Minded is not the as wil definitely.

subject to appropriate consultation

Wonder what would be considered "appropriate".

Is that asking for "medical facts" rather than the report of what had been happening as uncovered by Cass Report.

Now if Labour wanted to be truly brave & attract the vitriol of the TRAs & sex offenders they should regard supporters of childhood surgical transition in the same way as FGM practitioners.

Both are the same, both deal in the mutilation of children's bodies but one is more socially acceptable. People need to Stop and think how mad this situation is in this day and age.

Agree with others that women's rights to single sex spaces will be the bone thrown to pacify transactivists. But I'm so preased that finally children and safeguarding will be prioritised. And if our fears are realised, it's guaranteed that there will be countless criminal cases a la Isla Bryson that will highlight the dangers of placing men in women's spaces . Eventually it will become unsustainable and politicians who have openly supported this will be forced to reverse - a a Sturgeon.

A lot of the NHS has laready been 'privatised'. It is now routine for there to be private facilities and organisations drafted in to serve the shortfall in NHS owned faciliies - in terms of both testing and diagnostics, but aslo in terms of actual hospital facilities. These help to get waiting lists down and give patients more choice and better access when it comes to healthcare.

There are private diagnostic servioces popping up all over the place....and many people seem to be accepting of using them. This tends to be the type of model used in other countries too, such as Australia and Germany.

Aren't they already doing this, though, with easier to obtain Self ID?

This!
If they’d announced this as a manifesto pledge before the election I would have voted for them, like many others I suspect.

Interesting thread (I've edited out the attached links throughout but I think the message stands without)

JK Rowling
Wes Streeting, the UK's new Health Secretary, has indicated that he plans to make the temporary ban on puberty blockers permanent. This has made the usual suspects very angry. Streeting, they say, will have 'blood on his hands.' He will 'kill trans kids.' 1/10

The usual lies are being trotted out by trans activists. 'Puberty blockers have been used for years and are proven to be entirely safe!'
But this is untrue. 'Thousands of women claim Lupron ruined their lives or left them crippled.' 2/10

Whistleblowers have been speaking out for years: '[Gender clinics are] risking a “live experiment” by sending hundreds for life-changing medical intervention without sufficient evidence of its long-term effects, experts have warned.' 3/10

Tavistock Clinic whistleblower, Dr David Bell, wrote of 'irreversible bodily damage brought about by puberty blockers and opposite sex hormones' and of young people being left 'sterile and lifelong patients, many facing catastrophic complications.' 4/10

A recent study by the Mayo clinic found that 'puberty blockers can lead to fertility problems, withering testicles, and even cancer among children who take them.'
5/10

The Cass Review is clear: 'The rationale for early puberty suppression remains unclear, with weak evidence regarding the impact on gender dysphoria, mental or psychosocial health. The effect on cognitive and psychosexual development remains unknown.'
6/10

Increased concern about the known and potential harms of puberty blockers has seen 'Europeans adopting a more cautious approach to care for gender incongruent minors [while basing] their decisions on evidence-based medicine rather than politics.' 7/10

But none of this matters to the true zealots. There's a huge amount of money invested in keeping the transition gravy train running, and public profiles have been built and bolstered by enthusiastic embrace of gender identity ideology. 8/10

Telling gender confused kids they'll kill themselves if denied irreversible drugs and surgeries is appallingly irresponsible, but some of those doing it have very personal reasons for insisting puberty blockers are harmless, as AT HJoyceGender says. 9/10 (tiktok where she talks about parents)

I've said it before: a dreadful reckoning is coming for those who've bullied whistleblowers, sought to suppress or deny medical evidence and cheered on irreversible harm to very vulnerable kids. So here's to AT wesstreeting for doing the right, rather than the easy thing. 10/X

And here's the crucial replies to take note of....

Caro Betts
Seeing the hate piled onto Wes today is truly informative for those new to the “gender debate”.
Zero thought. Zero reflection. Just blindly lashing out at anyone who thinks that unhappy children deserve appropriate care.
The reckoning is coming

Helen Joyce
It's very instructive when the unhinged hate is turned on you personally. Before that, you may harbour some suspicions that the people you see being attacked did something to deserve it. Then you realise that since you definitely didn't deserve it they probably didn't either

Wes is learning a lesson. So will others.

Also agree they will at least toy with the idea. It depends on how it gets prioritised...

... If it drops down the agenda, it may disappear.

Backlash is coming. Hold your nerve. Keep writing.