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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans identified man sues McDonalds for being denied access to women’s changing rooms

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SamW98 · 29/06/2024 08:47

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-details-german-trans-identified-male-sues-mcdonalds-after-being-denied-access-to-womens-changing-room/

And with the totally batshit laws in place in Germany, he’ll probably win.

EXCLUSIVE DETAILS: German Trans-Identified Male Sues McDonald's After Being Denied Access to Women's Changing Room - Reduxx

A trans-identified male and former drag queen residing in Berlin is currently involved in litigation against McDonald’s after alleging he was denied access to the changing room intended for female employees. Kylie Divon, 27, also known as Keil Li, is s...

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-details-german-trans-identified-male-sues-mcdonalds-after-being-denied-access-to-womens-changing-room

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UpThePankhurst · 21/07/2024 17:10

When your material reality is a 'concept' in a bloke's head.....

Well. Head and other parts.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 21/07/2024 17:33

Omlettes · 19/07/2024 22:05

That face fgs.
What are humans doing to themselves, and who promotes this plastic misogyny - the media and marketing.
Unless we do something about them, then it will never stop.
I mostly blame the DM in this country and the constant tsunami of Katie Price and all her clones since the noughties. And porn, its a mobius strip of evil.

I was thinking along the same lines recently. Heavy and long term cosmetic surgery on female celebrities is normalising a "woman's" face that is mostly synthetic, (un)natural for either sex and achieveable by either sex. (It's kind of like Pete Burns' post surgery face).

Many of the go-to trans women celebrities (the fashion/media ones not the rent-a-TRA ones) don't look like natural women but they do look like this surgically created "female" face, and if that face is normalised trans women will seem more and more "female", at least in the media where their comparators are equally surgically adjusted.

Treaclewell · 22/07/2024 10:25

Well, fashion has never worked for real women, where you need a degree in 3D geometry to make it fit. They don't like us.

ScrollingLeaves · 22/07/2024 11:18

I find myself using g a new sort of aesthetic judgement about looks and fashion/ looking beautiful: “Does it look at all like drag?”

Fish lips and long hair on women older than about 16 looks like that or porn now.

CocoapuffPuff · 22/07/2024 11:27

There was a real phase on YouTube and other video based social media, for women doing make up deliberately to create drag queen bone structures. I watched a lot of these with teen niece and she really understood where the trend came from. If you look at the same women now, the hard sculpting has gone and there's way more working with the female facial structure.
I still see the odd girl on the street with brown diagonal lines from the bottom of her ear to the edge of her mouth (cheekbones from the front, dirty face from the side), but it's definitely going. Thank goodness. It was mental.
Of course, it turned out that one of the biggest influences on this trend according to niece is a Dutch makeup artist called Nikki, who came out as trans a few years ago. So Nikki had male bone structure, and was working (beautifully, very talented individual) with that.

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Chersfrozenface · 22/07/2024 11:27

An acquaintance once posted one of those "can you tell the difference" things with photos of drag acts, transwomen, and actual women with surgery/inch-thick make up.

I did point out that all of them were caricatures.

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