Trans identified man sues McDonalds for being denied access to women’s changing rooms

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https://reduxx.info/exclusive-details-german-trans-identified-male-sues-mcdonalds-after-being-denied-access-to-womens-changing-room/

And with the totally batshit laws in place in Germany, he’ll probably win.

I too shall await them with great interest.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/20/us-news/trans-woman-mia-bailey-accused-of-killing-parents-allegedly-told-cops-she-would-do-it-again/

And another - but this never happens right? They’re the kindest gentlest most vulnerable people in society apparently who just want to pee in peace

I think she was just saying that to protect herself because she also says this (absurd indeed) :

“Apparently I am – unintentionally – setting a precedent here,” said Lange. “What is certain is that I will not let myself get down and will continue to stand up for my safe space for women, which I have been offering for 32 years. I will not allow my business model to become absurd and will do everything to ensure that there is still a safe space for women.”

Definitely 25 years old. And definitely “Laura Hannah” 🥴

At least we have been assured that we women will be quite safe sharing our safe spaces.
😉😟😟

Karen White's victims for example were perfectly safely raped in their safe spaces.

We were chatting about side hustles in retirement.

I recommended DH takes up making appointments for his nethers to be waxed and targeting Muslim beauticians, as this seems to pay well. there’s a beauty parlour near us with a closed room for hijabis...

@CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment yes, that was the inference I drew. I didn't mean her brain - I meant the German authorities reading her letter who then went on to fine her. It's ludicrous, like living in a parallel universe.

Sadly and bizarrely.

Not a man with a fetish, just another gay man with a hatred for women.

As I read this, I straight away thought of Alfonso Pantisano! I actually know someone who knows him personally, and by all accounts he is just as he comes across on Twitter/X.

The current anti-discrimination law allows private providers to discriminate on the basis of sex when it us founded on concerns about safety or privacy (Intimsphäre.) The new Self-ID law simply refers to those provisions and states that they remain intact - this passage is what's been nicknamed the "Saunaparagraph.". It's part and parcel of the coalition pretending the Self-ID law is "just" about changing your civil status, and "there's never been any laws on who gets to use which toilets."

There's two gigantic problems with this. One (which nobody, not even critics, is discussing yet) all the exemptions are only valid for private business while public actors are held to much more stringent standards. Given that the vast majority of German swimming pools are municipal and generally rely on open-plan single-sex showers, when the shit starts hitting the fan things will get interesting.

Secondly, TRAs hate hate hate the "Saunaparagraph" and it's unclear to what extent it will withstand actual legal challenge. Both the queer commissioner, Lehmann, and the anti-discrimination commissioner Ferda Ataman (both Green party) have criticized the passage, with Ataman arguing that it amounted to "policing women's bodies" (bleurgh.)

That's why it's do significant the fragrant "Kylie" had herself photographed with Sven Lehmann - there's a good chance this lawsuit is being used as a test case by his lawyers, who also represent the Erlangen gym dude.

Excellent German Twitter thread with lots of sources below:

https://x.com/ronalyze/status/1806743403549331811

Technically she wasn't fined - the Anti-discrimination commissioner has no powers for that and "merely" suggested a voluntary compensation payment.

In the meantime, it seems, "Laura" has joined a separate co-ed gym where he's managed to convince the (male) manager that he's such a lovely damsel he really belongs in rhe women's changing rooms🤮. No mention of using the shower and whether (as he had offered for the first gym) he would "mitigate" the impact by wearing swimming trunks while showering. And yes, the offer was explicitly about a Badehose, rather than a swimming costume or at least bikini bottoms! Go figure.

@GrumpyPanda That's interesting because it has so many parallels with what Labour / Keir Starmer are doing in England. In theory you can still have single sex spaces, but in practice in areas where Labour have power you don't (eg in Bristol where the Council said they wouldn't work with or fund any organisation that doesn't include men who say they women in women's single sex spaces- so all the domestic and rape support for 'women' , council funded changing/ public loos etc are effectively mixed sex). So if you are a woman who can't pretend men are women and/ or need privacy and safety from men, you are excluded from 'womens' spaces as they are actually mixed sex.

It's a way for Labour /trans activists to exclude and punish women who won't lie or get undressed in front of male strangers, whilst at the same time pretending they are not...The lies, cruelty and misogyny are off the scale.

Thank you.

I even tried to explain what a woman is: woman is included and means trans and cis, all varieties of women,” Divon said.

The utter staggering misogynistic arrogance of it.

Exactly. “All varieties of women” 🙄

Like tea. Just pick your preferred variety 🙄

Can't believe I'm supporting McDonald's in a lawsuit. Strange days indeed.

The male entitlement just shines through however much lipstick and pink dresses they wear.

The fucking arrogance of manaplaining womanhood to women is off the scale and yet the enabling handmaidens nod and smile like proud parents watching their toddler take their first shit in the potty.

Use the MENS room then. Knob.

wow, scary. Who'd be relaxed about running into that in the toilets

As for that german man trying to go to a women's gym, cheek of him. his stance is 'you women will not get to be safe from predators'.

whoever said upthread that perverts have never had it so easy hit the nail on the head.

yes, it sounds like ''all breeds of terrier'' doesn't it.

Why are there changing rooms in McDonalds? It’s a take away place not a clothes shop?

Staff changing rooms

So he worked for McDonalds?