Kathleen Stock voting Labour

[CassieMaddox]

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I love her. She's talking a lot of sense on this.

I agree with you. I think Labour are trying to appease the female vote, but I have too much riding on this issue to trust them, personally. They won’t get in in my constituency though, so I am having to choose between two other parties, anyway.

I'm voting Labour because what's the alternative

D'you know, I wanted to say that about Conservative party. Never voted for them before (and I've been voting since the 1980s) but what is the alternative? Then again, I live in Scotland and you cannot imagine what a shower of shite choices we have up here. I watched the Scottish Labour party vote down a self-id amendment that would have stopped convicted rapists from self-identifying as women.... and another that would have delayed men accused of rape from self-id as women... I just can't vote for any of the parties that did that. And OK, that was the MSPs not the MPs but I asked my MP about a proposed conversion therapy bill I got "conversion therapy is a Very Bad Thing and of course we are going to support a ban".

I'm sorry. I mean I really am sorry. But honestly, what's a girl old lady to do?

I think the current polls show "the Left" (by which I assume you mean Labour) have their shit together currently vastly more than "the Right".

I don't agree. A lot of people in the red wall by nature deeply loathe the Tories and "lent" their votes in 2019. The Tories have rewarded them by diverting levelling up funds to rich southern constituencies, fucking up brexit and otherwise fucking them over. I doubt those "lent" voters will ever go back, especially if Reform are providing the more right wing of them an attractive option.

I think a lot of other people feel properly burnt by austerity then Brexit and will struggle to forgive the Tories for that either. I know I'm unlikely to vote for them ever again.

They've bought this on themselves and people would be very foolish to expect any of this damage to be fixed quickly. I think Labour will do 2 terms easily. And given global warming who knows where we will be in 10 years time.

Well I live in the Red Wall, so i think my perspective is fine.

It's people who were on fixes that started pre-Truss
You are massively clutching at straws if you think Truss had no effect. Most of us saw what happened to our mortgages. Mine is almost double what it was - I came off a fix 2 months after her fuck up out of nowhere

As someone who's never voted Conservative, and never thought it possible, I'm seriously considering doing so for the first time. I spoiled my ballot paper in 2019 but this time want to actually vote. I've met my Labour candidate and liked him and he has put in writing to me his support for single-sex spaces for women. However, I just can't bring myself to vote for a party led by Keir Starmer. Given that Labour is going to win anyway, I think it's really important that there's a proper opposition to it. I guess that's what I'll be supporting if I hold my nose and vote Tory. The alternative is the Monster Raving Loony Party.

Just to clarify, these housebound, extremely disabled people received thousands of pounds extra over several years to keep them warm, fed and alive during the fuel crisis.

Well to clarify further this housebound extremely disabled person (me) received £150 as did everyone else in receipt of PIP. Any other payments were about low income.

What is it about the current Conservative party that makes you think they would be a strong opposition?
Part of their issue is they are saying very little anyone wants to hear. It's like Corbyn in 2019 and I doubt anyone thought he would make a good opposition.
I think lib dems are a better bet for that.

OK. The good thing about politics is over time you get to see if you were right or not!

Oops that was for @duc748

Public services have always fared better under labour. I am fully aware it will take a long time to repair the damage done by 14 years of tories but we have to start somewhere.

Is that you Nadine?
Each to her own.

How can anyone ruin the economy more than it already is? Johnson took the limping economy into the back garden and shot it with an "oven ready brexit deal"! 😂

I did a 'who should I vote for' quiz thing just out of boredom. Apparently it should be Lord Buckethead by quite some margin.

Perhaps I should reconsider my political views. I haven't followed the Monster Raving Loony Party much I'm afraid but I shall go and do some research.

Also I'm not sure halving violence against women and girls is a "vanity project". But maybe thats just me

Plus £400 energy support.

Exactly. I like and admire Doc Stock and enjoyed Material Girls, but why would how she intends to vote influence how I vote?

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OK this is just anti-Labour scaremongering at this point. I have no desire to engage in your batty conspiracy theories - it's based on misinformation. Elections are too important to go round making shit up.

https://fullfact.org/online/starmer-muslim-grooming-prosecution-crime/

I'm not saying she should. I liked her articulation of her reasons. Others might too. That's all.