Child excluded for using a ‘dead name’.

[OhForTheLoveOfMoney]

I keep my GC credentials close to my chest but a friend has just told me this and I am so furious I had to share here. (I NC’d for anonymity as this is not my DC).

My friend’s DC has a friend that they have known since primary school. This friend has is now non-binary and changed their name. My friend’s DC, in all innocence, has used the name they have known their friend as for their entire life and has been excluded for dead naming and it has been cited as a hate crime.

FFS.

I doubt if the child would be excluded for a single mistake 🤔 it seems far more likely that the deadnaming was done in the context of bullying or making fun of the non-binary child?

Did the DC deadname their friend once (slip of the tongue) or repeatedly?

Repeatedly would suggest it wasn’t innocent at all but in fact, an act of hate.

If they've been friends all this time, why would the 'victim' report his friend for a simple memory slip up?

Email JK Rowling about it and she will happily throw money your way to fight this.

(if it happened)

Lol there's literally no way this is true

Maybe it is, I let JK Rowling know. She will come to OP's rescue I'm sure.

Goodness, almost as if there's an attempt to grab screenshots for Twitter going on, & this is all nonsense on stilts.

You are obsessed. Talk to someone.

That's fair more likely.

I suspect you mean suspension? This wouldn't have happened for the reason you suggest.
What occurred at the meeting?

Permanent/Fixed term/internal exclusions are the new terms for Expulsion/suspension/isolation, respectively.

So she's right to say exclusion, which she later characterised as "internal".

Other than that, it's hard to know what to make of any part of this thread.

I am head of KS4. I am very well aquainted with the terms and the legalities!
This makes no sense.

So, at a meeting, the child and parents were told that this was "a hate crime"?
What other information was given?

I am head of KS4. I am very well aquainted with the terms and the legalities!makes no sense.

Then why are you telling her she means suspension? Of all the things there are to say on this thread? You know what internal exclusion is. The question is why she keeps saying "hate crime".

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Yes, this is like the stories you see 'I was excluded for the wrong socks'. There's always more to do with the story. Exclusion for something like this wouldn't happen for someone accidentally using the dead name. Repeatedly or with intention to upset would be a different story.

Yes there was. For a start I was at university 25 years ago with a trans teacher trainee. This isn't a new thing.

Because that's the term rather than exclusion, although I can see that it was internal.
That's really not the main point. A child would not be punished for one instance of a slip of the tongue. Schools have far more serious issues to deal with and have neither the time nor resources for this.

For anything to be classed as a hate crime, a crime has first got to be committed first. This has to be proved in a court of law. The court has to determine if ‘hate’ was an aggravating factor in the crime which may lead to a longer sentence. I hope this terminology hasn’t been used by the school.

Quite, @Justme56 . Certainly, where I work we use the term "harassment" or possibly "discrimination" depending on the incident.

Internal exclusion - is that basically being removed from classes but not the school itself?

Seems like a deliberately provocative thread title of so as to most people excluded would suggest permanently excluded from school.

I'd be surprised if it happened too. Knowing a few non-binary kids through my kids, none of them give much of a shit about the occasional use of their old name.

@Gelasring you're right on all counts, I think.

That's not exclusion as 99% of people understand it. Your OP implied he'd been expelled (permanently excluded), not kept in an inclusion room and lost his breaktime.

Load of goady bollocks

Exactly right, @NeverDropYourMooncup