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AstonScrapingsNameChange · 25/06/2024 14:20

biscuitandcake · 25/06/2024 14:15

Bad men are violent towards women and wish them harm.
Tennant isn't like that. He doesn't want to hurt women he just wants them to be quiet. He's a feminist.

Is that sarcasm?

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 25/06/2024 14:25

I can see that a parent of a trans-identifying child would feel very sensitive about the genuine, actual, transphobia that is out there.

He needs to focus on thugs who abuse and insult people simply for being trans.

KB, much as I despise much of what she says as a Tory, fulfills her role in protecting women’s rights where there is compromise from trans demands.

The Metro, on KB’s policy:

“This move could mean that trans women are denied access to women-only spaces, even if this puts them in vulnerable situations”

“This move could mean that trans women are denied access to women-only spaces, where this puts women in vulnerable situations.”

Fixed.

Kemi Badenoch, I’d rather die than be on a male hospital ward

There’s a very large ‘F’ on my passport, meaning my sex is registered as female, so why on earth would I be placed in a male ward or a separate room?

https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/03/kemi-badenoch-rather-die-a-male-hospital-ward-20961379/

RantyRantington · 25/06/2024 14:25

RantyMcRanterton · 25/06/2024 13:24

Just for clarity, for the lurkers, Mr Tennant also said: "until we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn’t exist anymore… I don’t wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut up."

To be clear, he wishes her to shut up until she is dead.

I agree with you I feel an affinity to your way of thinking.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 25/06/2024 14:29

biscuitandcake · 25/06/2024 14:15

Bad men are violent towards women and wish them harm.
Tennant isn't like that. He doesn't want to hurt women he just wants them to be quiet. He's a feminist.

This is one of the strangest comments I've read on here. A feminist ??

UpThePankhurst · 25/06/2024 14:30

The response to Willoughby there is:

Yes, it's reasonable and understandable that you should not be placed on a male hospital ward.

No, you cannot insist that your rights as transwoman outweighs the privacy, dignity, safety, beliefs, feelings and equalities of women.

Because male humans do not matter more than female ones, and female ones are not a resource you are entitled to. End of.

EasternStandard · 25/06/2024 14:30

biscuitandcake · 25/06/2024 14:15

Bad men are violent towards women and wish them harm.
Tennant isn't like that. He doesn't want to hurt women he just wants them to be quiet. He's a feminist.

What?

This is bizarre

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2024 14:30

Tennant continues the fine tradition of Scottish men telling women to shut up.

David Tennant - Wishes Kemi B would ‘shut up’
ArabellaScott · 25/06/2024 14:31

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 25/06/2024 14:29

This is one of the strangest comments I've read on here. A feminist ??

Sarcasm, I assumed.

IncompleteSenten · 25/06/2024 14:32

Yes, definitely sarcasm imo

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2024 14:35

‘The branks were used to discourage a blethering woman’

It's amazing how quickly women are told to shut up, pipe down, calm down, be quiet, stop screeching, stop spouting, stop being hysterical.

Women Won't Wheesht, you sanctimonious, be-quiffed, numpty.

CorruptedCauldron · 25/06/2024 14:43

Wow. There needs to be some consequences from Tennant saying this. He wishes he didn’t live in a world where Kemi Badenoch exists. And until that time, he wants her to shut up. ‘I don’t wish ill on her’ - well, you kind of do, don’t you David? You want her to shut up until she no longer exists. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/06/2024 14:47

inthetrenches1 · 25/06/2024 14:00

Some of these comments are bleak. Kemi is my local MP and she is dreadful, absolutely dreadful. She votes in her own interest and what will advance her career, nothing to do with anyone’s wellbeing. Hopefully we will vote her out come 4th July.

Unlike Kier Starmer, Angela Raynor, Bridget Phillipson, Emilly Thornberry and anyone who toes the party line for the sake of their career in the Labour Party, you mean?

Angela Raynor still sits there beside Starmer in spite of the fact her partner, Sam Tarry, was de-selected by Starmer for supporting a strike, and in spite of the fact that Jeremy Corbyn was thrown out. Starmer will say and do almost anything to get elected and has betrayed all of his former pledges and commitments, as well as any principles he may once have had.

I suspect most cabinet MPs are poor constituency MPs as they simply haven't got the time to attend to most constituency matters - alongside their full time and demanding cabinet posts.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 25/06/2024 14:47

If she lived in Scotland she could report it as hate speech....

Oh hang on, that doesn't cover women does it? 🙄

FrancescaContini · 25/06/2024 14:52

RantyMcRanterton · 25/06/2024 13:24

Just for clarity, for the lurkers, Mr Tennant also said: "until we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn’t exist anymore… I don’t wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut up."

To be clear, he wishes her to shut up until she is dead.

He’s a nasty little man.

Nellieinthebarn · 25/06/2024 14:54

I don't understand what makes actors so bloody well qualified to comment.

Who are they really? just grown ups who make a living playing dress up.

If people stopped treating them like they were gods, maybe the ignorant little fuckers would stop behaving as if they are the fount of all knowledge, graciously bestowing it from on high on the poor little mortals who toil in the sun.

Beenthereagainandagain · 25/06/2024 14:55

does anyone else think there could be quite a sinister underlying message read into this by some… DT says people need to “wake up and” (do something so that) “kemi badenoch doesn’t exist anymore”
he’s linking the necessity of “waking up” which enables KB’s demise in a disturbing way.

on another note, has he really got a 9 yo child that is trans/itioning? That’s so young and so sad. Can the kid not just go and play outside on roller skates for a couple of years like we did back in the day? Sounds like a lot more fun than trying to make yourself literally into a round peg which will never fit into the square hole of your biological reality.

RandySavage · 25/06/2024 14:56

The heirarchy of oppression is becoming clearer.

Those who used to be able to claim they were oppressed - with centuries of evidence to bolster the claim - were female, black, gay. These have now been relegated to the ‘minor oppression’ league, while alone at the top we have white, middle aged, heterosexual, men in dresses transwomen.

check your privilige Kemi

NooNakedJacuzziness · 25/06/2024 14:57

Nellieinthebarn · 25/06/2024 14:54

I don't understand what makes actors so bloody well qualified to comment.

Who are they really? just grown ups who make a living playing dress up.

If people stopped treating them like they were gods, maybe the ignorant little fuckers would stop behaving as if they are the fount of all knowledge, graciously bestowing it from on high on the poor little mortals who toil in the sun.

Just posted this on another thread - drives me nuts

David Tennant - Wishes Kemi B would ‘shut up’
NiceCutRoundDomeDormice · 25/06/2024 14:58

Billyballyboo · 25/06/2024 13:58

I thought we'd moved on from privileged white men telling black women to shut up.

Yeah, that poor downtrodden Business and Trade Secretary.

FrancescaContini · 25/06/2024 15:00

Nellieinthebarn · 25/06/2024 14:54

I don't understand what makes actors so bloody well qualified to comment.

Who are they really? just grown ups who make a living playing dress up.

If people stopped treating them like they were gods, maybe the ignorant little fuckers would stop behaving as if they are the fount of all knowledge, graciously bestowing it from on high on the poor little mortals who toil in the sun.

Agree. Emma Thompson’s recent hyperbolic rant about there being no nature left in the UK 🙄 was annoying.

Mumoftwo1316 · 25/06/2024 15:01

Even if KB only advocates for women for the sake of her career and not because she "cares", I'm for it. What does it matter what her reasons are. She's getting good work done.

Do we question human rights lawyers/emergency response workers/cancer nurses doing good work saying "well they just do it because it's their job"? Sure. And it's a bloody good job someone does it.

Soontobe60 · 25/06/2024 15:01

inthetrenches1 · 25/06/2024 14:00

Some of these comments are bleak. Kemi is my local MP and she is dreadful, absolutely dreadful. She votes in her own interest and what will advance her career, nothing to do with anyone’s wellbeing. Hopefully we will vote her out come 4th July.

Don’t all MPs vote in their own interest? I mean, whats the point in being an MP if you don’t vote for what you believe in?
I’ve had a glance at her voting record - which votes are purely in her own interest or to advance her career? What specifically has she done thats ‘dreadful’?
Ultimately, do you think men should be able to say what DT has said about a woman with impunity?

Meadowwild · 25/06/2024 15:01

INeedAPensieve · 25/06/2024 13:34

It's chilling isn't it? Yet he sees nothing wrong with saying that. I find men like this just as scary and threatening as the Andrew Tates of this world. Two sides of the same coin.

You are absolutely right. He gives me the creeps. Always has. He always seemed to be performing 'what a nice guy I am'.

This is judgemental but when I saw his wife in that lockdown show they did, I thought, I've got the measure of you: child-faced little blonde, 13 years his junior, way less successful but from good acting aristocracy. He's off filming all over the place while she wrangles their five kids. I've met a few men like him before, and they all play nice but underneath they are utterly self-serving, so they require women to be biddable and pliant.

Soontobe60 · 25/06/2024 15:02

NiceCutRoundDomeDormice · 25/06/2024 14:58

Yeah, that poor downtrodden Business and Trade Secretary.

When hes telling her to shut up and that she shouldnt exist purely because she believes men cannot change sex, then thats a whole other story!

Doteycat · 25/06/2024 15:03

I listened to david tennant does a podcast in the panemic, christ he LOVES himself he does.
I listened cos he had some good guests but nah, hes a knob.