David Tennant - Wishes Kemi B would ‘shut up’

[Justme56]

https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/21/strictly-star-robin-windsor-honoured-posthumously-2024-british-lgbt-awards-21083694/

Ah, he always used to come across as a lovely warm person.

I think attacking an individual personally - rather than their opinions - is almost always a bad idea. It's bad because it suggests you're not a very nice person and it also suggests that you are not able to argue your case on its own merits.

Does it matter that Kemi Badenoch is a black woman? Would it have been OK if he'd attacked a white man? Well, no, it wouldn't have been OK if he'd made the same unpleasant remarks about (say) Jeremy Hunt. But yes, it does look worse when it's a Black woman, because of the long historical tradition of men trying to silence women (witch trials etc) and of white people persecuting Black people, through slavery, violence, rape and denying them basic civil rights. That's the context that makes a white man telling a Black woman to shut up particularly grotesque.

It's interesting that an apparently intelligent person like Tennant couldn't see that.

Not an answer just PA response

I'm so very educated by the Righteous responses, especially this morning's explanations and deflections. Please, keep going. You are doing sterling work for The Right Side of History.

No you haven't. You've deflected with PA rubbish. I'm used to that tactic and can spot it a mile off, DM used it all the time. It meant that she didn't have an answer and was just ranting (pretty much par for the course with DM).

What is also appalling is the cheers from the audience when he said those words. Racist, misogynistic and so arrogant!

When someone shows you who they are believe them. Who the hell does he think he is?

I didn't like it when she whipped up a Twitter storm against a young journalist who had emailed a question to her press office.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/29/minister-kemi-badenoch-under-fire-over-tweets-about-journalist-who-sent-her-questions

I agree with her about the Equality Act.

People contain multitudes.

That may be the case.
But Tennant is still wishing a woman not to exist (ie to die)
That's bleaker.

Yes I’d genuinely like to know what posters mean about Kemi Badenoch being incompetent and loathed - leaving her GC views to one side, what are these other issues?

Yes,@mrstrickland, I have on occasions told people to shut up, usually my kids when they were being bloody irritating.

They were younger people I had authority over, not government ministers in my own age group.

And I wasn't all dressed up, accepting an award at a public event with the press watching, either.

Tennant is a fool.

And also highly partisan, don't forget that. He was preaching to the converted.

I didn't like it when she whipped up a Twitter storm against a young journalist who had emailed a question to her press office.

I didn't either. You don't have to like someone to grasp that it's wrong to state publicly that they should shut up and/or stop existing.

We all think for ourselves, that's why there are many here calling out abusive behaviour and exploitation of children, and articulating why we think it is so.

You need to try and engage your own brain. Given your brief and sneery contribution that may well be a struggle for you.

me too. I'm a bit gutted tbh

Loving the comments on the article though. Looks like most people see past his (admittedly lovely) fancy jacket.

The woman can't put a step wrong.

Don't be ridiculous, of course she can.

It's just not acceptable to single out a woman and state you want her to 'not exist anymore' (whilst bleating on about how kind you are) because you disagree with her politics and opinions.

It's possible to disagree with or even not like Kemi whilst also acknowledging that Tennant targeting her like that is shitty.

I wish we would stop sexualising children & allow them to have a childhood rather than having adults trends pushed onto them by their attention seeking parents.

“I wish politicians like Kemi Badenoch (and maybe insert more) would stop using the trans community to score political points” or “would be less inflammatory with their language” or “could try and have more understanding of queer people”. Any of those would have made his point without wishing someone didn’t exist and would just shut up.

Obviously I’d still reserve the right to consider him an acting dullard and not even in the top 2 Dr Whos.

And again for those at the back not paying attention:-

A very privileged, rich man stood up on a public platform to accept an award; during his acceptance speech he expressed a wish that a female MP should not exist and wanted her to shut up.

This female MP may have views that many of us on here disagree with (I know I do), but in light of all the threats that female MPs experience as part of public life (and the fact that a female MP was murdered during a previous election campaign), this was a very unwise, stupid thing to do.

I feel chilled by this, I feel that he is no different to the Andrew Tates and Nigel Farages of this world; it is deeply embedded misogyny of the highest order and because he is who he is, this man will not be held to account.

So I and many others have come onto Mumsnet to express our dismay, our fear and our disgust at this behaviour. This is not about political affiliations. This is about calling out misogyny, regardless of who is doing it.

He could have said any of the following:

• "However until we wake up and Kemi Badenoch isn't in government any more"
• "However until we wake up in that world"

But he chose to say that he doesn't want her to exist, saw how that went down, and hastily backtracked.

I've seen him at RSC and have the production postcards framed and waiting to go on the wall when I next redecorate. They aren't going up now.

Dawn was foolish, she has just given a free pass to any knuckle dragging racist to say the same thing about her.

Re the ‘hyenas’ comment - many people on here think Tennant was out of order and we’re simply calling it out. That doesn’t mean we are all right-wing, and it doesn’t mean that we all love everything Kemi Badenoch ever says. On women’s sex-based rights however, I believe she’s spot on. That is my opinion, which I’m entitled to have. I will listen to anyone who is talking sense on women’s rights and child safeguarding, I won’t cover my ears and say lalala you’re from the nasty party, I can’t hear you.

Meanwhile, here’s an interesting article in Spiked, not sure it’s been posted yet:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/06/25/david-tennants-rant-about-kemi-badenoch-was-deeply-revealing/

@CorruptedCauldron hear hear.

I loathe the Tories. But on this issue, Kemi is spot on.

Indeed.

For a man whose job it is to spout stuff…he left himself just enough pace to draw breath - so that the audience may respond - & then realised that the crowd were not going his way.

On paper, it reads that he spoke those words as one sentence. On the podium, he had to adjust in mid-sentence his message & tone very quickly.

DT has done himself no favours, he has revealed too much.
Not longer the actor, we have seen the man & are no longer bound by the spell.