JKR calls Labour's Bluff - Offering Meeting leadership only on her terms

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JKR is playing at a different level. After Starmer and Reeves offered to meet with her she gave them her conditions.

I'll be happy to meet after NoXYinXXprisons, Lesbian Labour, Womens Rights Network, WomansPlaceUK and Alliance LGB have been given in person meetings with the Labour leadership. I'd also like to know whether Angela Rayner still considers the last two organisations hate groups.

They are trapped either they now have to meet with gay and women's groups and listen to them something they are desperate not to do. It is not impossible then that Reeves at least can be made to see some sense. Even talking with these groups and JKR will also make TRAs go ballistic and many will leave the party. Chances are that Labour will promise a bunch of stuff to JKR which If Labour still follow gender nonsense after that they can be fully held to account for. If they promise single sex spaces are safe then every time that is breached Labour's credibility will be on the line

Or if they refuse to meet with the groups they prove EVERYTHING JKR said in her essay was right.

The media are now hyping the meeting further locking Labour in

BRING IT ON
Keir Starmer insists he WILL meet with JK Rowling to thrash out trans and gender rights & ‘respects’ her views
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/28714134/keir-starmer-jk-rowling-trans/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/24/labour-gender-transition-recognition-process-trans.

Well said @OvaHere

Over on TwiX, Helen Joyce and Kathleen Stock are absolutely furious about the both-sidesism.

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.336G8HA

You've never seen it? It's been doing the rounds for a while now and is often seen on gender critical twitter accounts with a lot of followers to "checkmate" trans people. That is, until the community note appears with the correction.

On twiX someone said to JKR saying:

You're actually radicalised past the point of salvation aren't you?

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling

I am, yes. My husband called a priest last year and found out the exorcism would cost around £500. I'm not saying Neil's tight, but he chose to buy a bottle of holy water and do it himself, which is why I'm still possessed of a demon that refuses to believe women have dicks.

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1806035383500632476

I know its not THE topic of the election for everyone, but can you imagine going back to the last election, let alone the one that was the first that any of us voted in, having this as an election issue?

Ova 👏

Just brilliant

Despite your arm flailing about posts on Twitter, on here, where you are now, you've been given many different links to journal articles and such like which show that when using all sex markers in skeletons, DNA testing and even tooth enamel analysis, sex can in fact be identified.

Why are you not engaging with the sources being discussed on here and instead again and again returning to a 'source' which no one on here apart from you brought up?

So starmer has not yet arranged his meeting with JK Rowling and friends including women's groups like the Labour Women's Declaration ? I could ask if he is frit ..... a journalist needs to push him on this soon and he will need to explain why not

I think it could be really helpful if Wes Streeting and Bridget Phillipson could meet with Dr Cass.

Fucking absolutely genius!

Why can’t we have JK as PM !!!!

Frit? Or lazy?

Oh FFS 🤦‍♀️. The idiot current resident TRA is now challenging the human skeleton? Facts established for centuries? On the basis of something a random bloke posted online once? Give me strength.

On another note ❤️ JKR

This. ☝

Those skeletons are on the wrong side of gender identity history.

FFS! If I made a meme showing the DNA double helix to illustrate that the sex of ancient bones can be determined with 100% accuracy whether they are male or female, would that help?

When I did my BSc. Hons in Anatomy at the University of Edinburgh Medical School, we covered this as part of our forensic anthropology module.

Using multiple measurements, including the angle in the pelvis mentioned above, it's reliably possible to determine the sex from the skeleton. There is of course significant variation between individuals of either sex, in any measurable characteristic, and that's where multiple measurements are used.

Anyway I don't think the TRA want to go down the rabbit hole of 'skeletal passing privilege', it's not an Osteo Beauty Parade. That wouldn't be fair to people who are blessed, for example, with massive Man Hands and massive Man Feet.

Gender Identity is 100% a mental process, and anyone can be any gender they want, without any need to get out the groinular callipers and measure they butt angles. I mean they can if they want, it's just not necessary.

He has no interest in anything they have to say, no intention of 'hearing' them and encountering difficult information publicly because then he would come under pressure to change the anti-women and child safeguarding he is so busily embracing - and he knows all this stuff, he just does not care or think women matter as men do and believes that women's role in life is basically as NPCs in male lives, but also does not want to have to say publicly 'I really don't care about women who don't want to have to provide their bodies to men as the price of their access to spaces because I think that's an appropriate requirement for men to make of women', and come out as a misogynist arse. He's shy.

And there wouldn't be a lovely shiny PR op in it for him as there would be if he had a cosy cup of tea with JRK.

Actually I have absolute faith that JKR would not make it cosy in the least, but both positive and negative publicity is still publicity, and JKR's name and face attracts notice.

Again: women are only relevant in how they can be used to be useful to this man. And the men and handmaidens he has stuffed the Labour party with .

Exactly UpthePankhurst and this is why the journalists should be all over it as 51 per cent of the population have the right to know what they are voting for . How is he being let off the hook so easily ? Surely the ex DPP shouldn't be scared of a little cross exam ?

Starmer is either a good old fashioned misogynist or he has a strong conflict of interest/skin in the game.

He can’t afford any meeting before the election as JKR will undoubtedly “report back” on Twitter afterwards. I don’t suppose he’ll meet her after the election either tbh. No need then, votes will have been cast.

Yep there’s no meeting. No need he feels he has it in the bag and after has the mandate

A cartoonist needs to draw Starmer as a giant flip-flop the way they used to draw Blair as a lapdog.

I must have something to do with all those pregnant men we keep hearing about.

Pretty much both of those are certain.

Anatomy is fascinating.

My riding instructor was telling us (mixed sex class) at the weekend about how men and women sit slightly differently in the saddle due to the differences in seat bones and hip sockets.

@OvaHere spot on 💯👏👏👏