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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sinèad Watson was detained for tweeting

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Imnobody4 · 06/06/2024 22:02

Just seen this by Sinèad's lawyer. Don't know anymore than this, sounds par for the course unfortunately.

https://twitter.com/AlexandrTheOkay/status/1798811587802783918?t=vEKv8-1P1B256A_S1DcPGg&s=19

Someone at @PSOSGreaterGlas needs to answer for the absurd, inhumane protocols you have set up. You need a complete policy revamp and whoever came up with your current procedures needs to be fired.

Sinèad Watson was detained for tweeting, for speech. For typing characters into a text box. Her phone was taken. She was arrested. She was handcuffed. She was put in a dirty cell. She was not given feminine products and made to sit in her own menstrual blood for 3 hours.

For what? She is under suspicion of "malicious communication online." Not a violent crime. Not a crime that has anything to do with the content of her cell phone. All of Sinead's purportedly illegal tweets are/were public at the time of her arrest. There is NOTHING on her cell phone that has anything to do with them. This is a violation of her privacy to embark on a fishing expedition for unrelated evidence.

Put aside the obvious free speech violation, because I get that not every country feels the same way (but it is a violation of her God-given rights to charge her with this absurd thought crime). Even IF you believe that tweets are illegal, the way she was handled and processed is completely unnecessary, unsafe, and dehumanizing.

Someone needs to lose their job. Sinèad is owed a massive public apology for what happened to her at a BARE minimum.

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Maaate · 07/06/2024 10:18

So slagging off the police and swearing on twitter are now arrestable offences? There's a lot of TRA's who are going to be getting their doors knocked on soon I expect... Right?

mach2 · 07/06/2024 10:26

Locked in a cell for tweeting? Does this sound proportionate ?

No, but this is along the path to the logical endpoint of laws based on "werds are the same as physical violence, waaahhh!".

TuesdayWhistler · 07/06/2024 10:30

Did she call some abhorrent scum a Cow In bow tie?

This has happened too often now Caroline Farrow, whatever you feel about her and her stances, she was out through the ringer for no good reason.

PrimalLass · 07/06/2024 10:30

I do wonder if it might have been more to do with what she's said about her ex.

MassiveWordSalad · 07/06/2024 10:31

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 07/06/2024 03:34

Just had a look through their twitter feed, looks a mix of abusing the police and calling people "pussy assed cunts" and talks about cults
Yeah, seems lovely.
Can't see why they're flagged, must just be because they're a woman. 🙄

I wasn't aware of Sinead Watson until reading this thread, and I'm not a Twitter user, so I also went and had a quick look. Here's a screengrab to illustrate the type of things she seems to post. I'm glad I didn't rely on your summary, which seems an odd take on her typical postings Confused

Sinèad Watson was detained for tweeting
TuesdayWhistler · 07/06/2024 10:34

Sinead has been through more in her short life than a lot of people will go through in multiple life times.

The fact she's still standing, still breathing and still fighting is an accomplishment in itself.

A recent article:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/27720466/gender-transition-surgery-regret-body-ruined/

PrimalLass · 07/06/2024 10:34

What's wrong with what she's said there?

ArabellaScott · 07/06/2024 10:41

Elspyth · 07/06/2024 09:31

Did anyone say what she's tweeted?

Unfortunately tweeting can be a crime and yes the police would take your phone if someone has (hypothetically) complained about being harassed.

Innocent until proven guilty could also be applied to the police here.

The police are not charged with a crime.

And for that matter, I've no idea whether Sinead has been charged.

ArabellaScott · 07/06/2024 10:43

mach2 · 07/06/2024 10:26

Locked in a cell for tweeting? Does this sound proportionate ?

No, but this is along the path to the logical endpoint of laws based on "werds are the same as physical violence, waaahhh!".

Depends who's using those words, of course. Women get the jail. Others ... don't.

GailBlancheViola · 07/06/2024 10:51

Maaate · 07/06/2024 10:18

So slagging off the police and swearing on twitter are now arrestable offences? There's a lot of TRA's who are going to be getting their doors knocked on soon I expect... Right?

So the Police are as we speak rushing around arresting all those who have ACAB in their bios? Gosh, they'll be busy.

Datun · 07/06/2024 11:03

Helleofabore · 07/06/2024 09:48

Shigami eyes? Or something like that. That is pretty extreme to use lists like that. Certainly no person making balanced judgements on each individual they come across on Twitter would use it.

I'm not on Twitter, so people who use 'terf blocker' have the people they've blocked in red?

How can they see what they say if they've blocked them?

GailBlancheViola · 07/06/2024 11:06

mach2 · 07/06/2024 10:26

Locked in a cell for tweeting? Does this sound proportionate ?

No, but this is along the path to the logical endpoint of laws based on "werds are the same as physical violence, waaahhh!".

The male person who threatened to kill JKR with a hammer didn't get a spell in prison, the overwhelming majority of those who post death, rape and sexual violence threats against women never so much as get spoken to by the Police. But of course hatred of women isn't a hate crime, how fucking surprising.

Also nice to see the usual suspect flaunting their misogyny on this thread.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 07/06/2024 11:09

How can they see what they say if they've blocked them?

Not sure what this shigami eyes thing referred to is but yes you can read tweets from people who you have blocked on Twitter.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 07/06/2024 11:23

ArabellaScott · 07/06/2024 10:43

Depends who's using those words, of course. Women get the jail. Others ... don't.

"The process is the punishment." And in Scotland it's a game anyone can play except women because misogyny is not incuded.

Ofcourseshecan · 07/06/2024 11:24

RueTroussevache · 07/06/2024 02:11

Jésus wept, the hyperbole.

"inciting hate "

To be fair, she may have said something horrific like “humans cannot change sex”. And as we all know, that causes mass outbreaks of sudden death among trans people.

Elspyth · 07/06/2024 11:35

All I'm saying is maybe the police did have grounds to arrest her, separate to her GC beliefs.

Amd maybe they should be given the space to do their job before we all jump to assumptions based on twitter.

Helleofabore · 07/06/2024 11:36

Datun · 07/06/2024 11:03

I'm not on Twitter, so people who use 'terf blocker' have the people they've blocked in red?

How can they see what they say if they've blocked them?

I believe that you can see the tweets, the tweeter's profile appears red for evil and others on the 'safe list' are green. I could be wrong about the safe list colour.

It is one way for people who like an echo chamber to have their 'safe space'.

As I say, those who use it could not be considered to be balanced in their approach to judging people using their own critical thinking.

Helleofabore · 07/06/2024 11:39

Elspyth · 07/06/2024 11:35

All I'm saying is maybe the police did have grounds to arrest her, separate to her GC beliefs.

Amd maybe they should be given the space to do their job before we all jump to assumptions based on twitter.

Even a woman who was in there to be questioned about a heinous murder should be afforded the dignity of having period products.

Luckily for Sinead, they removed her own trousers because they had ties on. So she bled through corrective services trousers.

There is never a reason to not provide a woman some dignity in this instance. Dehumanising them before or after interview in this way, is unique to female people.

Elspyth · 07/06/2024 11:41

Helleofabore · 07/06/2024 11:39

Even a woman who was in there to be questioned about a heinous murder should be afforded the dignity of having period products.

Luckily for Sinead, they removed her own trousers because they had ties on. So she bled through corrective services trousers.

There is never a reason to not provide a woman some dignity in this instance. Dehumanising them before or after interview in this way, is unique to female people.

Yes I agree. Have no idea what that was about, it is dehumanising.

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 07/06/2024 11:48

The police have committed a misogynistic hate crime (a real, physical one) against Sinead and it's a human rights abuse.

If they've been reading her tweets they know she's a detransitioner as well so may know that this would be particularly distressing treatment for her. Though it would be for any woman.

What they've done to her may well constitute torture.

Even if there was concrete evidence of an actual crime (which there doesn't seem to be other than being a woman with an opinion), there is no excuse for this. They seem to be identifying as Taliban, given the way they're treating her. Let's not forget in Afghanistan women aren't allowed to use the internet. I think some police officers have been hoping they can push the law in that direction.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 07/06/2024 11:49

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 07/06/2024 08:53

Re the JKR point above - I think JKR knows Sinead and in fact tweeted in support of her yesterday, so that was not hyperbole.

Good to know that the women are on it already. I'm not on Twitter so that's a relief. Yes, JKR would know who Sinead Watson is.

Dumbo12 · 07/06/2024 11:53

The "forgetting" to provide menstrual products, could well be a deliberate ploy to ensure that the woman in question feels uncomfortable, thus more likely to agree with any suggestion the police make. This could have the effect of the "prisoner" making statements which she believes the police want to hear, in a bid to get better treatment and maybe to leave the police station.

mach2 · 07/06/2024 11:57

Amd maybe they should be given the space to do their job before we all jump to assumptions based on twitter.

They shouldn't have any sort of peace while enforcing a law that criminalises speech even in the privacy of the home and is a score settler's charter. It's a shit law and everyone who had anything to do with introducing it should get a daily bucket of shit in their social media and snail mail until they plead with Swinney to scrap the law.

EdithStourton · 07/06/2024 12:06

GailBlancheViola · 07/06/2024 10:51

So the Police are as we speak rushing around arresting all those who have ACAB in their bios? Gosh, they'll be busy.

Good to know of Plod priorities.

Our local ones take 36+ hours to turn out to dust for prints after a burglary.

Hugosmaid · 07/06/2024 12:15

Elspyth · 07/06/2024 11:35

All I'm saying is maybe the police did have grounds to arrest her, separate to her GC beliefs.

Amd maybe they should be given the space to do their job before we all jump to assumptions based on twitter.

And here you are floating around a feminist board sowing seeds of doubt on a woman that’s been horrifically treated by medical professionals, spoken in the House of Commons against these practices and battles daily with what she has done to herself.

strange

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