Tommy Robinson and Let Women Speak

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I've only read about this on Twitter so there's a chance this is being taken out of context, but it looks like Let Women Speak were part of Tommy Robinson's rally in London this past weekend:

https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

https://x.com/GappyTales/status/1797611080212205988

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1796931835823362392

This doesn't sit right with me at all. I've been to LWS events and thought I knew what they were about. I've argued against the guilt-by-association tactics that some activists use against LWS when male intruders have turned up to the events, like the neo-Nazis in Melbourne.

But here we see the opposite, LWS deliberately attending far-right fascist marches. This seems inexcusable to me.

"Crazy that we're at this point where GC feminists on this board are advocating listening to the likes of TR."

More mis-reading.

That is not what is being advocated for.

That's a union jack flag, no?

I would post a link to an interview of someone who was there but I know i would be accused of supporting TR and I don't!

I'd be interested to see the interview.

See spart this reads to me as "I want to talk about Gillian Duffy and Gordon Brown because it is much more palatable to me to think its Gordon Brown's fault the feminist movement has been infiltrated by the far right than to consider that maybe I've had the wool pulled over my eyes".

By setting it up as "let's explore why Gordon brown was bad" you are managing your own cognitive dissonance about LWS by emphasising the comforting bit of the argument.

There are gazillions of threads where women console themselves that their move to the right is the fault of Labour. I didn't think I'd see it being used as a justification for a move to the far right though.

We need to fill it up with something because filling it with all the ways TR has influenced GC feminism would would be a thread with zero posts.

Here's a picture of Aja with her Jamaican flag:

Yep. She's not "draped in a Jamaican flag" that I can see. She's basically wearing the acceptable uniform of a far right member at a rally. But I'm sure it was an accident.

But not from the TR march

Straw manning me again.

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I'd say as we are nearly full after 2 days and any other threads about the far right and GC feminism go the same way, the evidence for that hypothesis shows its bollocks.

No, it's a Union Flag.

@CassieMaddox you're out and out accusing Aja of being a member of the far right, which is way out of line.

I thought the England flag was the acceptable uniform of the far-right?

What did you mean when you said "it's about providing social and political context for why people whose politics would typically sit on the left.... are turned off the left and Labour. That's what this thread could have been about were it not for the constant shaming and outcasting."

It reads to me like you want to discuss "the left" rather than the topic of the thread as per OP. But clearly I misunderstood you.

A lot of posts, zero evidence.

That's a different day/event though
Edited to add: why is this getting sidetracked to somehow assume that the majority of the supporters at these rallies don't agree with TRs far right policies because a black woman attended draped in a Jamaican flag (she didn't).

I'm not. If she attends far right rallies dressed in the "uniform" of the far right, it is a logical conclusion that she is at least sympathetic to them. She hasn't come out and said anything different.

It's not "out of line" to draw an inference from someone's own actions. And it is entirely relevant to a long standing debate about the influence and links between Let Women Speak and the far right, because Aja is very involved with LWS.

Apart from pictures, tweets and pages and pages of denial and minimisation.

I get the impression the only thing that's going to convince some on here that there is a problem with far right infiltration is if KJK gets a tattoo of TR on her forehead.

I'm not. If she attends far right rallies dressed in the "uniform" of the far right, it is a logical conclusion that she is at least sympathetic to them. She hasn't come out and said anything different.

But it's you that's declared she's "wearing the uniform of the far right". Just because you declare something to be so, doesn't make it a fact.

I personally think you don't care as much as you claim to about the far-right/TR issue, and you're just using the whole incident to try and discredit GC activists.

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Read the big issue link. And the one posted about Fred Perry shirts. And again, don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.

I'm not. If she attends far right rallies dressed in the "uniform" of the far right, it is a logical conclusion that she is at least sympathetic to them. She hasn't come out and said anything different.

She doesnt have to make an official statement in response to your crazy statement.

don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.

That's more your modus operandi.

Hmmm, now what is that saying again...

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...then it probably is a duck.

Well except for the posters who are which is why people are questioning why they are suggesting that. So far it's just been "to understand" but the purpose of that understanding isn't explained or what it is they don't understand about them already.

Well except for the posters who are which is why people are questioning why they are suggesting that. So far it's just been "to understand" but the purpose of that understanding isn't explained or what it is they don't understand about them already.

In order to try to prevent them drifting towards extremism, by seeing if there is a way that their concerns can be addressed or if their concerns are genuinely unfounded then they can be educated about why they are unfounded.