Adult Human Female postbox topper "against the spirit of postbox toppers"

[Topperfan]

say Labour councillors
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/beeston-postbox-topper-claiming-women-9319330

(no it wasn't me, I can't knit! 😁)

Men tell women lots of things to get their own way.

Fucking hell are you seriously coming onto the feminism board ti tell women that men who have trampled all over women’s boundaries, who think women is a costume one puts on, who have never had to deal with periods or the menopause or the effects of the motherhood penalty. Who haven’t spent their lives having it drummed into them that wonen are the support humans fir the default proper humans ir men

you think these men have had it harder than women??? Fucking hell

I don't feel the same as Judi Dench, Martha Howe-Douglas, Taylor Swift or Janet Jackson but somehow we're all women. You can't feel like a woman, there's no universal womanly essence. To be a woman you have to be biologically female, not male

Men have told lesbians for far too many years that they just haven't tried the right cock, is that true because it's men telling women? What if the man really, really thinks the lesbian will turn straight at the sight of his magnificent member?

It's great that you are thinking about it. And I'm not saying that "essencse", whatever it is, doesn't exist. And sure, you could label that essence "woman" if you wanted.

But all of that has nothing whatsoever to do with the history of female people and the reason we have feminism. Sexism and all the shit that "woman" were dealt didn't happen to the people with the "woman essence", they happened, and still do happen, to the people with the female bodies. And they don't stop happening just because we decide woman is "really" some sort of inner essence.

Do you see? Woman used to mean one thing. If you want it to be this "essence" thing instead then sure, but it's a different thing. Whether it was "really" womahood all along is ultimately meaningless because if it is "womenhood", all that means is we used the wrong word for female people. It doesn't make the men with the essence somehow interchangeable with female people, or change the history or needs of female people. Whether you call us women or not, those things do not change, and whether you call men-with-the-essence women or not, they will never have those experiences and were never part of that history.

And because whether you call us women or not, we still exist, we still need words to decribe what female people experience and need and we still need the right and stage to speak.

Personally, given that Woman is the word under which the female bodied lived and were defined for hundreds of years, the word under which we knew ourselves and our history good and bad is written, I think that's the one we should keep. But even if we don't, we cannot accept the reality of female lives and experiences being recast as the story of the people with the woman-essence, because whether that is "really" womanhood or not, it is manifestly not the same thing.

Not a topper, but what about a knitted flag line between lamp posts as a replacement? You just have to hope that not many people speak "Navy" 😎
https://www.marinewaypoints.com/cgi-bin/flags.pl?ship=1&signal=1&input=Woman++is+adult+human+female&showchars=ON

As in maybe we need to take crude bodies out of it to understand and entertain the possibility that a woman can be something else, like an essence. I haven't really made my mind up about this but I've always had this feeling about it.

Whatever bollocks you're talking about it's got nothing to do with the crude physical reality of being a woman.

I mean there's rape, torture, domestic violence for starters but sure being a transwoman is one of the most challenging things a woman can go through...

Not endometriosis, or PCOS or a forth degree tear in childbirth. Not being more likely to die in a car crash, or to die being operated on by a man, or to die because you have an issue with a pregnancy and aren't allowed medical treatment than an unqualified man might think is an abortion.

Because men have to have it worse when being a woman than a woman can

You make a good point, but I feel like we would disagree on some things, ie I have some quite controversial feminist views such as for one I think women should be able to be home with their children, and that society has manipulated us into thinking working instead is for our own good, when in fact we struggle, and in fact we are just better at it than men.

Crimes against women valid, but aside, it isn't because of our bodies we're treated badly here, it's because in this case we care, and because we were manipulated into needing and wanting to do it all by a society that says we will act the same as men and it will expect nothing less.

How?

So explain pips bunce who is a "woman " part of the week and a man part of the week.
Philip/Pippa bunce, something in credit suisse

Do you imagine that by incessantly repeating this prayer it will one day somehow become true?

We would certainly agree that society needs to organise itself so that motherhood is not a drag on women's agency, financial and social security, and presence in society. Fleshing out what that looks like is a whole other thread.

But interestingly, the women I mentor aren't mothers yet, and I never was one. Yet they, and I, still deal with sexist biases and asymetric opportunities. And that's without going down the crimes against women route.

You say it's not because of our bodies but because "we care [for children]". I don't see how you can separate the two. No one checks if a woman is a mother or not before they apply their sexist preconceptions, they just react to our sex.

How exactly does an essence enable a body to grow, birth and nourish a new human?

*Transwomen have told us, that they just always felt like they were a woman, and it's hard to understand but if you take it at face value it could be possible that in some way they just are, and they just are in the wrong body somehow.

As in maybe we need to take crude bodies out of it to understand and entertain the possibility that a woman can be something else, like an essence.*

So if "woman" and "man" aren't defined by biology but by some "essence" what are they? What makes a woman a woman if it isnt biology?

Why do 99.99% of people with "woman" essence have female biology but some "women" end up with male biology? Do you think something other than sperm meeting egg happens at conception and that while the the biological sex of a person is determined by the sperm an outside force also adds an "essence" and sometimes they aren't concentrating properly so they put the wrong "essence" into a body?

How can someone male "feel like women"? In what way? Do they feel like they have ladies brain or a ladies body or just a ladies "essence". What the difference between ladies brains and mens? Are women who like science and sport and short hair actually men?

Did non binary people get both essences or none?

Do only humans have gender essence? If not could a person get dog essence or parrot essence?

Our local postboxes are never naked so I assume the crafter removes the old one when they install the new one. Both local postboxes are re-dressed on the same day.

I am mostly constructed of essence of sloth.

Yes it was only for the context where women are often left with the babies and end up doing that as they run around out at work

sexism is shared experience in all of us, and I know a transperson just isn't going to grow up and live that in the way we do, but I do think it's a spectrum and there is a point within that where I feel women are fighting against being told you can't do that you're a woman, when sometimes it's true, but there's a fight because the woman is conditioned to believe they and men are equal and the same. Just a really basic example I can't set up a tv, I can't learn programming, I can't open up my PC and fix my pulled wire, and it's because I'm a woman

Sorry if I'm just rambling off, I've took a sleeping tablet and I think it's kicking in lol

I don't understand why you can't do those things.

I hope that is the sleeping tablet speaking, as otherwise you are a very misogynistic person! The idea that you can't do those tasks, because you are a woman is beyond parody!

That lot has be crocheted.

It's crocheted, not knitted.

"Just a really basic example I can't set up a tv, I can't learn programming, I can't open up my PC and fix my pulled wire, and it's because I'm a woman."

WTF

How did I assume that? I asked whether you’d have any objection. It’s a simple question.

Just a really basic example I can't set up a tv, I can't learn programming, I can't open up my PC and fix my pulled wire, and it's because I'm a woman

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

No your just limiting yourself with mad beliefs

I am a programmer, working with other female programmers knowing that the first computer programmers were women.

Learning to code is remarkable similar to learning to knit and it's not because we have a masculine essence either 🙄🙄🙄