BBC at it again withholding fact ‘woman’ charged with murdering husband is trans

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You know what to do Mumsnet. BBC apologised previously because of mass complaints about sick cat killer Scarlett Blake not being referred to as trans and just being referred to as she / woman in original article. They’re now at it again.

this person arrested for killing husband with samurai sword.

bbc article
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp00de3r3qro

daily mail article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13480347/amp/Trans-woman-70-appears-court-accused-murdering-husband-samurai-sword.html

complain and let’s get a precedent set, these are not our crimes!

He seems to have been very involved with the police in community matters. Including an organisation for .... Domestic Abuse. And this murder was called in as a domestic abuse incident in the reports. No surprises Sussex Police who clearly know him have referred to him as a woman throughout. Clearly they care not one whit that yet another man is going to be put in as committing a female crime.

If you can't "profile the perps" you can't identify patterns in offending, and therefore can't put measures in place to prevent further incidents.

Can I check something? So both perpetrator and victim are males identifying as women, but the article states the perpetrator is a woman, but the victim as a man?

I'm also confused about this!

Oh yes

i didn’t quite realise that

probably so ‘women do kill men just as much as men kill women’ can be used

Dreadful reporting of a dreadful crime

make the bbc very hypocritical as well

Bloody hell, that's right.

Is that to make it all sensationalist, 'woman kills man'?

How bloody cynical can they get!!

I didn't "trawl the Internet" searching for clues to their gender identification. It was on the news that the murderer had been remanded in an ALL MALE prison. That's what made me realise they were trans. My initial thought was that the prison (fairly local to me) had opened a women's wing. And yeah. It's an absolute disgrace that male violence is being eroneously attributed to a woman.

Interesting how the prioritisation of the alleged offender over the victim applies even when both were transgender.

The reporting is repeating the abuse dynamic.

I'm fascinated that my analysis - seen so many times - holds up even in this scenario.

It's a pro-abuser bias. I guess they did turn a blind eye to Savile so shouldn't be surprised (and is why I don't pay my license fee).

The news article needs to say 'we are using gender-based pronouns for the offender and sex-based pronouns for the victim' if they're not to mislead those reading it.

The article does “mention” the murderer’s sex - it’s the FIRST WORD OF THE HEADLINE. It’s also FACTUALLY INCORRECT, which is the OP’s point.

My God, this is exhausting!

The victim used to identify as a woman, but appeared to have detransitioned back to male.

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · Today 07:51*

"In this article we have agreed to use the gender-based pronouns Scarlet Blake prefers, we have not bothered to ask how the victims / their family identify so have assumed sex based pronouns for everyone else. We have also not asked the victim's family which pronouns they'd use for Blake"

Sadly, that's exactly the case and I agree that they decided to say that "woman kills man" as a means of sensationalising it, but in the way the wanted to portray things. Why use the self-proclaimed identity of the malefactor, but turn it around for the victim?

Unfortunately because men commit 98-99% of all violent sexual offences, we HAVE to be "obsessed" with genitals for the safety and protection of WOMEN AND GIRLS.

But those who would question this clearly don't care about that.

Yes indeed. I’m sure. When was the last time a fully grown adult male masquerading as a woman was murdered in the uk? More or less recently than the last time a real woman was murdered?

Complained to BBC for inaccuracy thanks for raising attention to this OP

Actually , in the last few years, more men who identify as trans have been convicted of murder than have themselves been murdered.

Exactly.
They are in fact the most PROTECTED demographic right down to the fact that you cannot even state reality around them for fear of being prosecuted for "offending" their sensitive natures.

Since the false and inflated murder statistics of Brazilian sex workers (many of whom were trans) was made public, some people seem to have inferred that those are murder/abuse stats for the whole trans population.
They are NOT.
There are vanishingly few murders of trans people (compared to actual women) outside of these stats.

You just have to look at any demonstration/rally to see what side the violence and threats come from BTW.

Had a standard reply from BBC to say my complaint is still under review. I won't hold my breath for a satisfactory response.

Will the victim of this murdering transwoman appear on the list of trans victims on TDOR (Trans Day of Remembrance)? Or will they be left off the list because they are also a victim of Trans violence? I hope they get their candle at the vigil but that there is honesty surrounding their murder. The victim is a victim of male domestic violence.

I think the victim had reverted to being called Andrew. It is almost impossible to untangle the ins and outs of their relationship , presumably they were no longer calling themselves transgender lesbians.

Not that old lie

Complaint also submitted.

I have my views on the appropriation of sex-based language like woman and lesbian by men and perhaps would have disagreed with the victim on their identity. This does not mean I feel any less sympathy for their death than any other victim of domestic violence. I don't think it's necessary to speculate on their relationship or the victim's gender identity to discuss the issues with inaccurate reporting of sex.

Every report on a crime that has involved a transman that I've read has correctly sexed said transman.

The difference in how female trans people and male trans people are treated is startling.

Men are whatever they say they are; women are whatever men say they are.