BBC at it again withholding fact ‘woman’ charged with murdering husband is trans

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You know what to do Mumsnet. BBC apologised previously because of mass complaints about sick cat killer Scarlett Blake not being referred to as trans and just being referred to as she / woman in original article. They’re now at it again.

this person arrested for killing husband with samurai sword.

bbc article
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp00de3r3qro

daily mail article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13480347/amp/Trans-woman-70-appears-court-accused-murdering-husband-samurai-sword.html

complain and let’s get a precedent set, these are not our crimes!

Hello

Just in case you have not noted the thread title- - the OP is having a go at the BBC for calling the killer a "woman." TBH I don't have a problem with that as the gutter press will ensure they get their story read.

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@ExpertInNothing Can you please start a new thread with your support links? It would be a shame to lose them just because they were posted in the wrong thread. 🙏

TRAs often forget too that male people are strictly speaking proportionately more likely to be the perpetrators of violence.

Majority of trans people who are murdered are sex workers in South America who are murdered by men. Not AGPs in Europe and North America pushing their way into women’s spaces.

So heartening to see that women are seeing through this ideology and all of it's evils clearly. 👏👏👏👏👏 As much as it pains me to get involved in politics, women fought hard for the vote, look closely at the main parties and see which leaders can answer the "64 thousand dollar question" correctly. The question is " what is a woman?" Then and only then, will you know who/which party women's (and children's) rights will be safe with. It is in OUR hands.

Damn right we need to know the sex of these perpetrators, they keep trying to put them in women's prisons.

Complaint submitted.

Accurate statistics on domestic violence are essential, and the sex of both the perpetrator and the victim is important information . Knowing who are the likely victims and / or perpetrators allows any resources to be targeted appropriately.

I got this. Maybe the complaints system is overwhelmed! Will try again later.,

I don't know why they even have to start the headline with "woman".

They include a photo at least.

It gets more clicks, because it is far rarer for women to commit murder.

Sussex police also:

https://www.sussex.police.uk/news/sussex/news/witness-appeals/70-year-old-charged-with-murder-in-brighton/

Sussex PCC:

https://www.sussex-pcc.gov.uk/

Could have just put "spouse" there's a photo of them so it's obvious

"Home Office guidance states that police forces should record an individual’s sex in the legal sense that is based on their birth certificate or gender recognition certificate. Separately, an individual’s gender identity can be collected."

Are Sussex Police following Home Office guidance? The above is from Hansard, I can't c and p a link and text on my phone.

Even if this man has a certificate, his sex remains male and should be recorded as male.

It's definitely not balanced reporting, and it's harmful to the victims / victims' families (in cases of murder).

Have they found out how the victim identified? Asked how the victim / their family perceive the alleged perpetrator?

Surely, the victim's opinion and perception should be at least equally as valid as the alleged perpetrator? But it's not, they report with massive bias against victims. This seems prejudicial.

Even in cases where convictions have occurred - so it is known the man in question is - for example - a paedophile (Dolatowski, Miller) or killer (Blake) - then they are showing bias in favour of the killer / paedophile by using their self identified gender as fact. Whilst not bothering to ask the victims how they identify or how they perceive the criminal who harmed them.

It would be quite easy to report in a more balanced way e.g. Scarlet Blake is a biological male who identifies as a woman and cat who has been convicted of murder. The family of Blake's murder victim, Jorge Martin Carreno perceive Blake as (however they do perceive him).

And then just clarify which pronouns you are using. "In this article we use gender based pronouns for Blake and we used sex-based pronouns for everyone else". That's usually what they do, after all. But if they don't spell it out the reader is left confused and - in many cases - with a false impression of reality. I.e. it's lies if they don't clarify, which they don't.

That's usually what happens in these articles - gender-based personally dictated pronouns for the criminal, and assumed/ imposed sex-based pronouns for the victims.

In the news reporting of Dolatowski, he was gifted she/her pronouns whilst the child victim was also given she/her pronouns and I bet no-one bothered to asked how the poor traumatised child identified. It's placing Dolatowski's wants over his victims perception of reality. It's horrendous gaslighting and could very well harm the victim further to see the pandering and placing of her abusers wants over hers. Maybe she's quite like the 6ft 5 attacker she perceived as male to be described as male? Did they bother asking her? No of course not, she's only a girl, she matters far far less than Dolatowski apparently. What horrendous bias against the victims.

Actually what would be more honest would be:

"In this article we have agreed to use the gender-based pronouns Scarlet Blake prefers, we have not bothered to ask how the victims / their family identify so have assumed sex based pronouns for everyone else. We have also not asked the victim's family which pronouns they'd use for Blake"

What have you said about the victim? Here’s some info on him, Andrew is his name. He was a lesbian when he married his murderer. Andrew was sometimes Angela or Angie.

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2024/06/02/joanna-stuart-rowland/

Would you like a main stream Irish newspaper instead. Here you go

Temp Head | Irish Independent

Closer offers an account of Britain's first civil transgender lesbian wedding. Joanna Stuart and Angie Rowland were both previously fellas. Joanna used to be a council worker called John, while Angie was a trucker called Andy.After the ceremony, they said: "We're the happiest couple in the world. It's been a tough journey to get here, but it's been worth it."
Closer offers an account of Britain's first civil transgender lesbian wedding. Joanna Stuart and Angie Rowland were both previously fellas. Joanna used to be a council worker called John, while Angie was a trucker called Andy.After the ceremony, they said: "We're the happiest couple in the world. It's been a tough journey to get here, but it's been worth it."
It's all perfectly normal.

From that article.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tOpbVCsOHpU

Interesting.

Video is of Joanna at an event at the PCC office, it seems.

Always the racism comparison. Imagine the murderer had been reported as being Muslim but was actually a church going christian. Would you complain about the local mosque denouncing the murderer as 'not one of us' as 'like racism'. No it's perfectly legitimate to be angry that a horrific crime has been attributed to a group that has no blame in the matter, especially if that group is already oppressed/disadvantaged by the group the murderer is ACTUALLY from.

Honestly it's like noone bloody THINKS for two seconds about their arguments.

Once again, they condone this again and again, but then rake Justin Webb over the coals for a very moderate comment. I wonder if there is a complaint against impartiality there- their disciplinary processes show inherent bias, both in what gets to them and what treatment it gets. Where’s the disciplinary for the author of these articles??