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duc748 · 29/05/2024 19:03

He'll get no sympathy from me, after his vile behaviour on more than one occasion. But the Party's reaction does give me pause for thought; it seems hardly fair or transparent, with echoes of the way Diane Abbott has been treated. Why was he not disciplined after the Miriam Cates incident? And yet, there was a deafening silence from Labour then. They can hardly claim the moral high ground now.

GailBlancheViola · 29/05/2024 19:04

So that's his Bill re Gender Conversation Therapy dead in the water then?

jacksonlambsregulardisorder · 29/05/2024 19:09

It's really odd for there to be nothing after how he behaved to Cates and now this just before an election. Is it something really awful, (and presumably well-evidenced), or are they sweeping out anyone embarrassing? Are there any locals who can give context?

ResisterRex · 29/05/2024 19:11

DialSquare · 29/05/2024 18:59

Hmmmmmm. Do you think it's because Labour know that he wouldn't be able hold his temper against KJK?

Thought along similar lines. Unless the 8yr old complaint is very very serious, the timing seems potentially relevant.

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

GailBlancheViola · 29/05/2024 19:12

Unbelievable how the spineless Keir Starmer did fuck all about his behaviour in the Commons to Miriam Cates and Rosie Duffield.

LizzieSiddal · 29/05/2024 19:13

Not surprised in the slightest. A man who can’t control his temper, even in the workplace, has had a “serious” complaint made against him. One less nasty misogynist in Parliament. A few more to go!

duc748 · 29/05/2024 19:16

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

Yes, that was my thinking too.

Theyhadsomehoneyandplentyofmoney · 29/05/2024 19:17

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

It sounds like there is clear evidence. They wouldn’t have suspended him without it.

ResisterRex · 29/05/2024 19:17

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

This captures the issues well.

SharonEllis · 29/05/2024 19:18

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

But this is the process. He has had serious allegations made against him so he is suspended while they are investigated. You can't have a candidate who has been suspended going into an election, surely?

OvaHere · 29/05/2024 19:19

duc748 · 29/05/2024 19:03

He'll get no sympathy from me, after his vile behaviour on more than one occasion. But the Party's reaction does give me pause for thought; it seems hardly fair or transparent, with echoes of the way Diane Abbott has been treated. Why was he not disciplined after the Miriam Cates incident? And yet, there was a deafening silence from Labour then. They can hardly claim the moral high ground now.

Edited

Agreed. Not sorry in the slightest he's gone but it's weird on Labour's part.

BackToLurk · 29/05/2024 19:19

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

No he hasn’t. He’s been suspended from the party. He sits as an independent MP until parliament is dissolved

Theyhadsomehoneyandplentyofmoney · 29/05/2024 19:20

LizzieSiddal · 29/05/2024 19:13

Not surprised in the slightest. A man who can’t control his temper, even in the workplace, has had a “serious” complaint made against him. One less nasty misogynist in Parliament. A few more to go!

If it hadn’t been the Labour Party he’d have been torpedoed long ago. They hate women so he got away with it. So what on earth has happened. Curioser and curioser.

ATM we only have his words. We know how unbalanced he is. He’s got his words in before the party have said anything. Looks like He’s got something to hide.

senua · 29/05/2024 19:20

this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy.
Does it? Isn't it a Labour Party rule rather than a HoC rule.
He says "these processes within the party take too long."

OvaHere · 29/05/2024 19:21

He should have faced serious consequences for his blatant intimidation of a fellow MP in the House.

SabrinaThwaite · 29/05/2024 19:24

What else could Labour do? Sit on a serious allegation and allow him stand as a Labour candidate and risk it coming out that the party knew but did nothing?

Meanwhile…

Lloyd Russel Moyle suspended
BreadInCaptivity · 29/05/2024 19:27

I think we can assume the allegation is very serious and seen to be a threat to Labours campaign for them to do this just

BreadInCaptivity · 29/05/2024 19:27

Eek ...just prior to an election

IwantToRetire · 29/05/2024 19:27

(Already posted on other thread)

Not saying there isn't anything else, but this is the only thing that came up from a search of 8 years ago.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-splits-up-local-party-after-dispute-over-bullying-67tw3bh5v

Can be read at https://archive.ph/OZnPd

Though nothing to indicate this is were the complaint originated from.

It could after all be a personal complaint not related to his politics.

Labour splits up local party after dispute over bullying

The largest local Labour party in Britain has been ordered to split into three and its chairman has been expelled following claims of bullying and intimidation.Brighton and Hove district party was

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-splits-up-local-party-after-dispute-over-bullying-67tw3bh5v

EasternStandard · 29/05/2024 19:29

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

Any allegations should be tested as anyone can end a career

Not that I rate him at all, his outburst should have been disciplined in some way

nothingcomestonothing · 29/05/2024 19:33

StripedPiggy · 29/05/2024 19:11

I’m certainly no fan of LRM, but this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy. A sitting MP has effectively been removed from the job to which he was democratically elected because of untested allegations which he denies. Whatever he is alleged to have done, he is entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

Anyone who supports his suspension should be very careful what they wish for. Malicious, politically motivated allegations can be made against your allies as well as your opponents.

This is what Labour do though. I'm not saying it's right, but it's not just happened to him. Didn't hear LRM complain when it was done to a female candidate who didn't chant the mantra:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-suspends-hackney-london-by-election-candidate-laura-pascal-b1132443.html

Labour suspends London by-election candidate over 'transphobia' complaint

The accusations are believed to relate to tweets that Laura Pascal posted in July in which she said 'trans women are not female. By definition they are male'

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-suspends-hackney-london-by-election-candidate-laura-pascal-b1132443.html

TheBanffie · 29/05/2024 19:33

'serious complaint' has an air of possibly being actions that are against employment or criminal law - does Labour disclose such information? Given that he is a public servant and still an MP I want to know.

Runor · 29/05/2024 19:34

Anyone else noticing the “I don’t know what it was, but whatever it was, I certainly didn’t do it” element of LRM’s statement? 😆

I do agree with Piggy though - waiting until this close to an election and then making accusations which remove a sitting MP who would otherwise stand at the GE isn’t right.