Emma Corrin and 'homophobia'

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Emma Corrin claims to have experienced homophobia since 'coming out' as non-binary.

Emma Corrin is in a relationship with Rami Malek.

Make it make sense.

Rude.
Why are you aiming your criticism at a young successful woman rather than a system that makes those women want to opt out?

It's completely different because skin colour is clearly visible and sexuality isn't. Homophobes have to rely on other cues to homophobically abuse someone and sometimes they get it wrong.

@AdamRyan I think you've misunderstood me.
I was unpleasantly surprised by @suggestionsplease1's post which, in my opinion, comes very close to saying that it is unremarkable for a lesbian women to be subjected to abuse. Whereas, when a straight woman is subjected to that same abuse, it is a very bad thing indeed.
I can understand why other posters wanted clarity on whether@suggestionsplease1 is a lesbian or a trans woman who identifies as a lesbian. And I too don't know what to make of the "boring lesbian" reply.

It's really not rude to tell you that you're not famous, which is clearly what @BackToLurk meant- we're all nobodies on this thread!

Why can't we direct our criticism at both?

Because that woman is using her platform to promote a dangerous practice. It’s not complicated I don’t believe successful people are above criticism.

She was referring to another poster who said about "interesting male lesbians". Quite obvious.

The poster she replied to didn't use the term 'interesting male lesbians'. So not obvious, actually.

Genius

We're really going round in circles here. No one has said that EC has been mistakenly assumed to be gay. Not EC, not the interviewer, nobody. They are saying EC has experienced 'vitriol' for identifying as non-binary. HOMOPHOBIA IS NOT THE WORD FOR THIS, any more than racism is the word for this.

Although apparently she feels uncomfortable wearing a bra for acting roles.

You know what would be really brave Emma? Keeping your kit on in magazines.

Yes we are going round in circles. Because some posters seem desperate to cling to the "only gay people suffer homophobic abuse" despite that being demonstrably untrue, including in law.

www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/homophobic-biphobic-and-transphobic-hate-crime-prosecution-guidance

"Any incident/criminal offence which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice based on a person's sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation"

People can't just change the meaning of words to suit their own agenda. It's a TRA tactic.

I don't think posters are thinking rationally about what the journalist said they saw happening to EC and what EC says about her own experiences, and the only reason I can see for that is their judgement is being clouded by their feelings about GI.

The definition of homophobic abuse has proven my point that EC has not been the victim of homophobic abuse- thanks!

The really awful thing about homophobic abuse is when gay men and lesbian women come to believe that they really are worth less than other people.
(This is never going to happen to someone who is only mistaken for being gay because they know what's being said by the people attempting to shame and belittle them is mis-directed).
Believing that it's worse when straight women are abused than lesbian women, and reaching easily for the phrase "boring lesbian" suggests some measure of internalised homophobia.
Yes, I'm armchair psychologising and happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. But that's my tentative conclusion.

Is the right word binophobia?

Or is that just a fear of Count Binface?

Yes definitely noone could mistake EC for gay

https://x.com/wendyxfisher/status/1369923532172316678

https://x.com/DebbieE46116279/status/1689831377011937281

https://x.com/LottieHistory/status/1642949697961885701

https://x.com/GigiNapalan/status/1594288033313931264

I didn't read her saying it was "worse". I read it as her saying that gay people are used to it.

It's a bit like (imo) the way the media report on organised paedophile rings targeting boys (e.g. Barry Vennells) vs girls.

Or men that are rape victims vs women that are rape victims.

Her exact quote:

And actually I can easily anticipate that a straight person could potentially have a worse experience than me if someone shouted 'fucking dyke' at them.

Would you describe any of that as vitriolic? Or even homophobic? Over-reliance on stereotypes, yes, but certainly not abuse.

And, once again, NONE of that is in response to EC coming out as non-binary. It's in response to how they look, yes, but not their non-binary identity.

Well, as you know that's not really what the article was about.
She says she's faced "vitriol", the author labelled it homophobic, I have no reason to doubt either and I'm not very comfortable for dismissing vitriol/abuse just because I don't agree with the victims ideology.

Posters (not saying you) have been very quick to dismiss what she's said because "she's non binary and thinks she's special". It just comes across to me as a new way to shut down talk about the abuse of women.

The point for me is there's no such thing in reality as 'non-binary' - EC is free to call herself that, and others are free to say it's bs. I expect that's what she means by 'vitriol'

i suspect you’re right. Together with her attributing the ‘abuse’ to fear. Yes Emma, people are notoriously scared of skinny white women in their underwear.

Why do you expect that? She's a young, successful woman who doesn't conform to gender norms (e.g showing off unshaved armpits, being vocally "queer")

I would expect her to be getting an onslaught of vitriol,considering how women in the public eye are treated. Unfortunately I don't think women get to identify out of abuse.

Here you go

https://www.instyle.com/emma-corrin-armpit-hair-social-media-comments-8652311

Just fkin ridiculous.

what does vocally "queer" mean?

How is that homophobic? Or transphobic? Julia Roberts was getting the same comments 25 years ago. Which in many ways demonstrates how regressive the NB/GI bollocks is. JR was actually a woman who just got on with rejecting gendered expectations. EC has to deny her womanhood in order to do the same