Transwimen actors call for trans quota quota for female roles

[GrumpyPanda]

.. more specifically, for 2 to 3 TW candidates to be united to every 20-strong audition.

And one of the interviewed, a mid-40s trans actor, complains about getting fewer offers of female roles, ostensibly since "coming out" aged 40. Who's going to tell the poor dear about Amy Schumer's genius sketch celebrating an actress' "last fuckable day"? Welcome to womanhood, "sister."

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/article/2024/may/02/just-let-us-audition-uk-transgender-actors-appeal-to-be-cast-in-non-trans-roles

Ah yes. The one who got their foot hurt so maximums got his chance?

I just assumed they were shaven headed like all recruits. And thought good they had a female one.

Sorry hadn't read the thread. You can tell she's desperately trying to speak and behave like a man but it seems so forced.

I know it is the brotherhood of the steal. (Fallout)

But I am a female character in the game and was welcomed to join them so assume females are allowed generally.

This thread reminds me of the hilarious 2020 short film from Fox, Owl et al about a reformed TERF, but all the actors are trans (apart from the cat I suppose who tbh is the star of the piece).

This would work if they made a film about a female Joker, casting Dylan Mulvany. Jokes aside, it's tough to make it work. Hari Nef was a clanger in Barbie, a movie about hyper femininity with a lot of facial closeups 🙄

It's an extremely irritating article but I don't think the idea has legs for economic reasons. I'd be surprised if global audiences respond positively. Also I don't think famous leading men with weight in the industry will want this in terms of acting partners, they know people want to see them opposite a female lead who's aspirational and believable.

There's also cases like Lily Gladstone, she's non-binary only in the sense she uses both female and they pronouns. Would she get a double audition?

Well exactly. I suppose it’s not a movement known for its logic though.

Don’t let Dame Katy Denise on Twitter hear you say that. She’s an advocate for trans animals. Please do not assume an animal’s gender identity.

That’s what I was thinking. Tbh yes 1 in 200 sounds high. So 1 in 400?

So for acting the pool would be even lower. 3 in 20 Doesn’t sound realistic at all!

But if you can identify into being a female actor with no issues, what on earth is to stop you from identifying as decades younger than you would be if you 'believed in' boring old chronology?

I could actually see a big, burly, deep-voiced 70yo transwoman actor going for the part of Annie - and any casting person who wasn't fully on board with that would most clearly be a hateful phobic bigot, #nodebate.

Gosh I’d forgotten how bad that was. Was it supposed to be ironic? Or a pastiche or something ?

They can get to fuck.

I think it's more a case of expecting to keep what you already have as an absolute right, whilst gladly hoovering up whatever other people have to add on to your own.

I think they were fully in earnest.

It really is an absolute gem! Anyone with 8 and a half minutes to spare, you won't regret it.

😂Colin Firth playing Elizabeth Bennett? How disturbing.

As a demonstration of the number of transwomen living unnoticed among us, it’s a spectacular fail. It’s reminiscent of primary school pupils signifying age with a pipe and walking stick, and masculinity with a burnt cork moustache and kipper tie.

I’d watch.

The part where the two blokes are looming over the woman who gets rowdy in the kitchen perhaps doesn't strike quite the note they were going for.

There are still proportionally fewer roles for women than for men. Let's redress that balance first.

Actually I spotted at least one other woman in the background in the brotherhood scenes.

There's a transwoman in Dark (German Netflix drama), playing a transwoman prostitute. But the plot is that the person using the prostitute is a closeted gay man, so tbh it's fine by me as it's a transwoman playing a transwoman. Same with Baby Reindeer.

I haven't watched Umbrella Academy since I peaked. Really enjoyed Paige's character - was the original comic book character trans too, or did they change the series plotline so that Paige could continue in her "correct gender"?

Edited for spelling

On Fox and Owl’s film, do they not realise that it’s also very confusing for an audience? A transwoman is playing a woman (who theoretically may be read by the audience as a woman or a transwoman) who reveals themself to be trans to their neighbour. The neighbour thought the transwoman was a woman, but the neighbour themself is played by a transwoman, who presumably is supposed to read as a woman by the audience otherwise the whole concept doesn’t make sense because surely a transwoman is quite good at clocking other transwomen and also presumably wouldn’t be “anti-trans” to another transwoman? As a film it seems to expect an audience not to have eyes which is an interesting avenue to go down for a visual medium.

The original thread about the trailer (from 2018 which is earlier than I thought!) was one of the funniest I can remember.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3393093-So-apparently-Owl-made-a-film

Anyway in reference to the original topic, I agree with what everyone else has said about trans people playing trans people. Or potentially their correct sex (wasn't Izzard still taking male roles?). There is nothing wrong with being trans. But yes, we all have eyes, which is quite the stumbling block to people playing cross-sex roles.

Nah, it would have to be Brian Blessed, shouting "GARDINER'S ALIIIIIVE!!!!!!"

But if you can identify into being a female actor with no issues, what on earth is to stop you from identifying as decades younger than you would be if you 'believed in' boring old chronology?

To be fair they did this with both Grease movies!* *Those were some very adult looking teens.😁

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