Transwimen actors call for trans quota quota for female roles

[GrumpyPanda]

.. more specifically, for 2 to 3 TW candidates to be united to every 20-strong audition.

And one of the interviewed, a mid-40s trans actor, complains about getting fewer offers of female roles, ostensibly since "coming out" aged 40. Who's going to tell the poor dear about Amy Schumer's genius sketch celebrating an actress' "last fuckable day"? Welcome to womanhood, "sister."

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/article/2024/may/02/just-let-us-audition-uk-transgender-actors-appeal-to-be-cast-in-non-trans-roles

As a really, actual ‘fanny’ type of actress in her early 50s, I can say categorically that there really aren’t that many parts for women between early 40s and ‘cute/battleaxe old lady’ - it’s like we don’t exist. So really great that the men want the parts too. Should I come out as a trans man with a big beard, there are no end of parts I could play in GoT/Outlander type shows. It’s worth a thought. (Also IME other actresses are NOT on board with this)

Not only do the parts not exist you also have to be attractive enough to appear on TV.

This already rules out most women including me and certainly rules out every trans woman I've met in real life.

This made me laugh out loud

Will this get some actresses publicly speaking up, I wonder. It's all very well being kind but when your livelihood is threatened, you'd think some action might follow.

I think you mean Trans Pride and Terf Prejudice.

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single straight man in possession of a large fortune is in need of a transwoman wife. As Jane Austen so memorably didn’t write.

Hopefully Daniel Radcliffe will be pushing for the idea upthread, as he's such a fantastic ally? Come on Daniel, put your money (and your tongue and crotch) where your mouth is?

I can't understand how they can be so far removed from reality to say this:

“I have never seen a trans woman on stage play a mother or a love interest,” Offie-award-winning Lyons says. “Why don’t we come to mind for that?”

Both these situations would be really odd to watch, you'd be thinking there was an adoption back story or a dad-becomes-mum back story, you'd also be thinking that the love story wasn't romantic as there would be a problem when he realised. It feels like me complaining that I don't get selected for the Olympics or something, totally disconnected.

You can't even leave a pet unaccounted for in films where the whole world goes up in smoke, you can hardly have a male giving birth on Call the Midwife without people finding it ridiculous. They even have to put in an explanation when the parents in a TV show or film have a child from a different ethnic group, because viewers feel lost otherwise or are waiting to find out why.

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My livelihood would certainly be threatened if I speak up, more than if I don’t. Unfortunately. Though I don’t pretend to believe TWAW at work.

Trans women should be campaigning for white male role to be turned trans, not women’s roles.

They seem to be overlooking one thing-who is going to pay to see.a trans actor instead of Helen Bonham Carter or Anne Hathaway or.whoever your favourite is?
I wouldn't.

Yes, I like mysteries and this would be the main problem for me. I'd be trying to work out the twist. Also, in stories about transition, how do you deal with the pre-transition scenes?

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This. I'm sure one of them would like to appear as Madame de Merteuil. However she was played by Glenn Close who was not only the leading actress of her generation but good looking.

Yes that's shallow but it's also show business.

More men muscling in on women's spaces. No doubt they'll be wanting the female acting awards too.

Could it be for the same reason that none of these heterosexual beardy work dude bloke who bleat TWAW at every opportunity never date a TW?

Or why the high profile celebrity couples ( gay and straight ) who buy a baby from a surrogate never use a TW?

They are the ones who are trans excluding .

There's always panto.

Especially if it's a mystery drama with some kind of subtle twist that you have to pick up on in order to 'solve' it - so you're expected to be alert to the fact that the character says a few slightly odd things that don't quite ring 100% true - whilst totally ignoring the fact that they're somebody's mother in the play/film, whilst obviously being male!

I see it alot in euro crime shows.

But I just assume that their friend /colleague is a trans person and so it's just part of the plot without being relevant to the plot. Not that we are supposed to think they are a woman as such.

I came back to the thread and should have refreshed again before posting - others have made similar (very good!) points!

AnnaMagnani · Today 12:37

Fine but going on the census figures it would be one transwomen for every 200 women.

That was my thought, too. Let's be generous and assume that the 0.5% figure isn't actually much higher than in reality. Why do they want to represent themselves as 400 - 600 times more common than they actually are, in the population?

That would be logical, but almost certain that wasn't the case in 2 of the shows I'm thinking of; one English and the other Icelandic. It definitely wasn't the the case in one US film and one US tv series I watched, they were cast as biological women (or teenage girls in the case of 2 of the actors)

Are there even that many transwomen actors?

Yeah. I'm sure Eddie (sorry Suzie) Izzard will now only take female roles and not throw their ideology out the window when it suits them to get a paycheck.

Not.

I think that Queen’s Gambit featured a transwomen playing a music teacher singing to the children in a pleasant voice significantly deeper that the female tenor in my choir.