Transwimen actors call for trans quota quota for female roles

[GrumpyPanda]

.. more specifically, for 2 to 3 TW candidates to be united to every 20-strong audition.

And one of the interviewed, a mid-40s trans actor, complains about getting fewer offers of female roles, ostensibly since "coming out" aged 40. Who's going to tell the poor dear about Amy Schumer's genius sketch celebrating an actress' "last fuckable day"? Welcome to womanhood, "sister."

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/article/2024/may/02/just-let-us-audition-uk-transgender-actors-appeal-to-be-cast-in-non-trans-roles

Knew this would be the guardian. FFS

But women of course can’t be cast as trans in anything, those roles are exclusively for transwomen.

So they don't like it when non trans actors play trans roles but want to be cast in roles that are non trans? 🤔 hardly seems fair

Ha bloody ha.

that's completely fine as long as they also fill a quotation for actually having periods, giving birth and two x chromosomes

That never made sense anyway - should be men in those roles. Women playing TW is largely responsible for the "passing" myth.

Aah but transwomen are women, however women are not transwomen or at least I assume that is the warped thought process.

There's been a lot of cruelty in the process of being kind, it really is cruel to someone to let them think they pass as women and that is what this is about when you get right down to it, its about validation.

It's very distracting when it isn't explained because our brains (and eyes) can always tell. Are they playing trans in the film? Or are we supposed to 'pretend' we don't notice (when we actually do)? It would be like if a 65-year-old was cast as a high school student... and no one ever mentioned it.

One of the children in Netflix's Evil Dead Rise was apparently meant to be male, but the actor playing 'him' is very obviously female and the character's name is 'Danny' which could be unisex. Like, what was even the point? I just assumed it was three sisters until I saw a comment somewhere about it afterwards.

There are already considerably fewer acting roles for women. Netflix has a policy of shoe-horning a transwoman into everything it can. Yet again women will miss out on what little is available.

I agree. It’s difficult when it’s quite obvious to the viewer the sex of the person. It’s like, how can other actors pretend they don’t know, which then makes the whole thing seem a bit ridiculous.

Ten years ago, it was not uncommon to see cis performers play trans roles on stage and screen. The industry has largely now acknowledged this isn’t acceptable.

But it's ok for men to play women's roles?? Why can't they see how unacceptable that is!?? Always a one way street!

And agree with PP saying Netflix shoehorning in trans characters wherever they can. See also BBC (Dr who anyone?) and various other streaming stations. Even a Star Trek had to shoehorn a binary character in.

Haven't we already had April Fools Day?

Actually, I'd quite like to see a gruff-voiced, 6ft, hairy-chested, five-o'clock shadow'd Elisabeth Bennett in a remake of Pride and Prejudice 😆bring it on!

Imagine claiming to identify with a marginalised class and then doing whatever you could to make things even less equal for that class than they already were.

It's not your name or your hair or whether you wear a skirt or trousers. It's your actions that give you away the most.

The constant search for validation from others must be exhausting. I don’t understand how it doesn’t, in fact, make things worse. I’d feel less secure if I knew people were pretending to see me as the opposite sex not more.

Sorry, but to me it just looks like another male grab of female things.

Sorry, but to me it just looks like another male grab of female things.

That's precisely what it always is. Same misogyny practiced globally. This particular flavour is jealous I guess, thinks feminism "went too far.

Well once they realise how few decent parts are written for over 40's women, and how much less they are paid ( I hope they are also happy to take the subsequent pay cut) they can always throw off the shackles of their womanhood a la Eddie Izzard and get decent parts/ paid again!

"I have never seen a trans woman on stage play a mother or a love interest,” Offie-award-winning Lyons says. “Why don’t we come to mind for that?”

🤔

Any word on transmen? Or is this just another handy illustration of men’s needs overriding women’s?

As an aside, I am someone who can’t always tell. There was a character on “shrill” who is trans and I didn’t know until it became part of the plot. There are times when it’s very obvious though!

When you are trying to turn a profit with a movie then sorry but no this isn't going to work with a worldwide audience. You wouldn't get the funding for production. Why hire a transwoman and lose out all all the revenue from both male and female audiences.

Not going to happen.

But this is great for showing up how it negatively affects women in an industry which already doesn't respect women.

Oh it's horrendous when a man is cast as a woman. I've seen this in several shows now (and one film). It's obvious from the first second they appear onscreen, and I keep waiting for the reference to their being trans. Then I realise that the viewer is actually expected to accept this person as a woman. Then I stop watching the show.

Fine but going on the census figures it would be one transwomen for every 200 women.

Actually less than that as 1. that includes trans men and 2. The census overestimated the trans population

So the current visibility is probably about right.