Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

[TeacherAnonymous123]

Just as the title says really! Is that your only thought about who you'll vote for, or will you look at wider policies? Been getting lots of information through my letter box recently, and none mention it.

As long as they don't vote Conservative I don't mind.

Errr, do you really think anyone here is concerned that you might disapprove of their voting intentions?

The whole of Europe has an immigration/asylum crisis at present, with escalating numbers. That wasn't the case when Labour was last in power.

You seem a bit late to the issue. This has been a campaign issue for women's groups for many years now...long before the press or even parliament started discussing or highlighting it.

The Conservatives"have bought" what these campaign groups are selling - not the other way around. Though, strictly speaking it is a cross party issue, as there are several outspoken Tory Trans activists; even though it is a central plank of policy commitment for many more Labour MPs.

But you are correct to say that so far it is only Tories who have pushed back against the Trans agenda. Labour has not even really begun to address the issue full on.

Headline statistics can also be misleading, and may not provide the gotya that the poster was hoping for.

I am not arguing either way but before accepting any argument would want to know whether the former figures include EU citizens using freedom of movement. Later figures won't. Are Ukrainians included in the later figures. Plus turning off the tap, so to speak, can take years. Legislation needs to be in place, would be migrants have to decide that the UK is not the nirvana that it is worth paying traffickers to get to etc. And as Autumn Crow suggests. Other European countries are also struggling.

I read this morning that Ursula Von De Lyon - the EU President - has reportedly been considering using 'third' countries such as Egypt - to deal with the EU immigration crisis.

I don’t deny that the Tories have failed on immigration, and many other things. That is not the question though. The question is will Labour be any better? And if not, who else might be?

Quite

In fact wasn’t it Labour who ‘opened the doors’? Tony Blair. So of course it was labours impact in the following years.

And Labour haven’t declared any way of dealing with the issue.

Are we all to vote blind !
and just keep our fingers crossed they’ll do something positive.
They are leaving any policies they have till the last minute so there isn’t a chance to research viability.
They got stung last time declaring they’d remove charitable status from Private schools only later realising….they can’t actually!

This is a real issue for Labour so they’ll keep it down low for as long as possible

There is no way they have the capacity to deal with billion dollar trafficking networks with what little they have said so far

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Oh come on! The tide of immigration has in fact risen all over the western world, I don’t think it would be any lower under a Labour government, and they would be encouraging it, not trying to stop it.

A Tory vote is an Anti-woman vote.

Why?

Because of their record while in government and their future under Penny TWAW Mordaunt.

Labour is the more likely anti woman outcome

Good luck

What about:’

• pausing the Ban Conversion Therapy bill so as to clarify meanings around what “conversion therapy” actually is for T

if it is not important and necessary psychological/talking therapies?

• stopping Scotland from bringing in GRC self-ID including for 16 year olds?

• commissioning the Cass report?

• looking into the need to clarify the meaning of ‘Sex’ in the Equality Act?

• emphasising single sex wards?

• Boris Johnson breaking the taboo about mentioning out loud, in public, that there is a difference between TW and W? ( In spite of all he did wrong).

Yes. This guy is unbelievable. He hates his own female party members, particularly when they state that a man is not a woman. He says some women have penises. And then lo and behold, a woman from the Conservative Party decides to defect to the Labour party (the only possible reason being that she still needs a job), he welcomes her with open arms. What a flip flopping biological sex-denying blob. Nobody should trust the Labour Party.

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Worth reading MN thread

Gender neutral toilets banned in new build restaurants and offices.

Some interesting facts being posted

What about
Effectively decriminalised rape?
Ruining health (so single sex wards are now rare) and education?
All the damage they did pursuing their TRA agenda?
Austerity cuts to women and children's services?
Wrecking the country?
Being a chaotic mess incapable of running the country?
Refusing to make misogyny a Hate Crime.
Reporting women ro the police for retweeting JKR?
Letting convicted perpetrators of VAWG out of jail early?

You may be able to forgive this. You may be one of the few people left that believes their lies. But i wont forgive and i wont forget. A Tory vote is an Anti-woman vote.

Is Labour run Wales the only ones who haven’t accepted the Cass Review?

I mean as a party they do all sorts of anti women stuff but to
go against Cass takes rare stupidity

Really not helping children in Wales

Re the immigration statistics; anyone remember that increased migration is one of the expected impacts of climate change? This will only get worse, so we need a government which has a good idea of how to deal with it. Labour have yet to declare their plan (maybe Natalie can help them develop one!)

Deal with climate change or displaced peoples?

Good point - both need attention.