Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Thread gallery
107
eileandubh · 25/04/2024 11:25

SidewaysOtter · 25/04/2024 11:12

It's highly amusing to watch everyone just milling around, getting on with their jobs/making coffee, while a completely irrelevant group act as if they've somehow got something important to say. It's like the yawning irrelevance of the Inbetweeners/LibDems in The Thick of It.

It would only have been funnier if there'd been a cleaner running a squeegee mop around them as the Greens wittered on: "Scuse me love, I've got to get this floor done, see?"

Grin

With the sound off, it looks like the cast of Two Doors Down have gathered to announce a small theatre tour in the autumn.

BezMills · 25/04/2024 11:26

"This is the ability to say we are taking control as a party, and indeed as a government."

I ran this through my translator and it just started repeating "STRONG AND STABLE". If he's on the same trajectory as Theresa May, maybe he'll do some bad robotics to Runrig as his entrance walk to the party conference.

Dinnae let the door hit yer airse on the wey oot, pal.

SidewaysOtter · 25/04/2024 11:35

CaveMum · 25/04/2024 11:15

It's reminiscent of Rudy Giuliani and his car park press conference!

Show quote history

That truly was one of the most hilarious political moments of all time - Giuliani giving a press conference in front of a roll-up garage door between a sex shop and a crematorium.

Or as Twitter called it, between a cock and a charred place Grin

binaryfinery · 25/04/2024 11:46

SaffronSpice · 25/04/2024 11:15

It was one of the earliest of Humza's failures which he only did to keep the Greens on board.

The GRR bill was an SNP bill. The SNP push gender ideology as much as the Greens. Remember the crying in the broom cupboard apology to TRAs video by Sturgeon when the SNP were forced to give raped and traumatised women the opportunity to request a female forensic examiner rather than having to accept a man who identified as a woman? Or the Gender representation on public boards bill that is currently being taken to the Supreme Court by FWS over the definition of ‘woman’? That also pre-dates the BHA.

Don’t be fooled into thinking gender nonsense was down to the Greens.

I agree with this. The SNPs whole marketing campaign is around them being a progressive party in a progressive country so they jumped on this issue as a way to parade their progressiveness. I have this set out clearly in a letter I wrote to my SNP MSP a decade ago, expressing my concerns re gender ideology. The answer was we are going to make Scotland the most progressive country in the world.

I think NS actually became a true believer. This happens when you have a small country, with a third and public sector filled with the same people milling around the same jobs. it’s easy for ideological capture to take place. She only listened to those she already agreed with. A but like Liz Truss.

I would hope with NS gone, the SNP can grow up and see that you need a sounder base for your decision making than ‘ this is progressive’ but can actually gather evidence, think things through and deliver on the priorities the Scottish people actually deserve. We’ll see.

binaryfinery · 25/04/2024 11:53

Just listened to a clip of Harvie talking whilst his female co-leader stays silent beside him. Great optics. That’s exactly the behaviour and attitude I would expect of a fully signed up TRA.

SaffronSpice · 25/04/2024 11:59

I was always amazed Humza never seemed to recognise the optics of the photos him (SNP leader) outnumbered by being flanked on both sides by two Green co-leaders.

Rainbowshit · 25/04/2024 12:00

x.com/shiny02/status/1782746149104787908?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

This is hilarious. We need more comedians taking the piss out of our politicians in Scotland.

Original poster
ArabellaScott · 25/04/2024 12:03

SaffronSpice · 25/04/2024 11:15

It was one of the earliest of Humza's failures which he only did to keep the Greens on board.

The GRR bill was an SNP bill. The SNP push gender ideology as much as the Greens. Remember the crying in the broom cupboard apology to TRAs video by Sturgeon when the SNP were forced to give raped and traumatised women the opportunity to request a female forensic examiner rather than having to accept a man who identified as a woman? Or the Gender representation on public boards bill that is currently being taken to the Supreme Court by FWS over the definition of ‘woman’? That also pre-dates the BHA.

Don’t be fooled into thinking gender nonsense was down to the Greens.

I think the SNP considered genderism an easy way to look hip, and swallowed the bullshit without thinking. The Greens are true and zealous believers.

None of any of this reflects well on either party.

OP posts:
SaffronSpice · 25/04/2024 12:12

BBC have a ‘live’ headline: ”Bute House agreement 'lasted 19 Liz Trusses' says Yousaf”

There you go - they were 19 times worse than Liz’s problematic term.

LoobiJee · 25/04/2024 12:19

Igneococcus · 25/04/2024 09:44

Perhaps they watched that political commentator’s video which someone posted upthread….

LoobiJee · 25/04/2024 12:20

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2024 12:03

I think the SNP considered genderism an easy way to look hip, and swallowed the bullshit without thinking. The Greens are true and zealous believers.

None of any of this reflects well on either party.

Show quote history

The SNP managed to look like true and zealous believers. Right up until the leggings photo.

maltravers · 25/04/2024 12:28

ArabellaScott · 25/04/2024 12:03

I think the SNP considered genderism an easy way to look hip, and swallowed the bullshit without thinking. The Greens are true and zealous believers.

None of any of this reflects well on either party.

Show quote history

I agree. They just thought they could overlook the strange reasoning in the name of progress. But the Green tail has been wagging the SNP dog for a while now and I suspect it has dawned on many SNP politicians that (1) the TRA manifesto is unpopular with the electorate (2) the real world consequences of men in women’s spaces and sports is going to be an increasing problem and clearly morally indefensible leading to yet more unpopularity (3) Crunch point - Cass has made it impossible to look away - who wants their legacy to be harming gay and confused children?

Good riddance to the Scottish Greens and I hope Keir Starmer and the Labour Party are watching carefully and learning from this.

OP posts:
Original poster
ArabellaScott · 25/04/2024 12:42

(Unless you want to hear about bat conservation and the upgrade of the National Grid, skip to around 12.00)

OP posts:
peanutbuttertoasty · 25/04/2024 12:43

God they just love a zero evidence base don’t they? Murder indeed…
Yes to narcissistic tantrums! Sounding absolutely unhinged now. How can anyone have been captured by and taken this shit seriously?
Responding to early messages, not had time to read the full thread, sorry!

fromorbit · 25/04/2024 12:48

binaryfinery · 25/04/2024 11:46

I agree with this. The SNPs whole marketing campaign is around them being a progressive party in a progressive country so they jumped on this issue as a way to parade their progressiveness. I have this set out clearly in a letter I wrote to my SNP MSP a decade ago, expressing my concerns re gender ideology. The answer was we are going to make Scotland the most progressive country in the world.

I think NS actually became a true believer. This happens when you have a small country, with a third and public sector filled with the same people milling around the same jobs. it’s easy for ideological capture to take place. She only listened to those she already agreed with. A but like Liz Truss.

I would hope with NS gone, the SNP can grow up and see that you need a sounder base for your decision making than ‘ this is progressive’ but can actually gather evidence, think things through and deliver on the priorities the Scottish people actually deserve. We’ll see.

Show quote history

Yeah agreed I phrased that wrong. Humza obviously was on the trans train to a strong degree I should have made that clear. However it is also clear that the SNP used and tricked the Greens in various ways on a whole bunch of issues mostly environmental long before so the division has been building for ages. The SNP as a whole, the party rather than the leadership, had misgivings about gender stuff which is not true of the Scottish Greens. The Greens chased most sane people out a long time ago. So Humza had a choice where he could have broken with gender stuff earlier to keep power. He was too committed to take it.

Anyway the next stage has begun Vote of No Confidence is coming . Are the Greens mad enough to bring the SNP down?

Scottish Tories to lodge no-confidence vote in 'lame duck' Humza Yousaf
https://news.stv.tv/politics/scottish-tories-to-lodge-no-confidence-vote-in-lame-duck-humza-yousaf-after-green-deal-ends

Scottish Tories to lodge no-confidence vote  in 'lame duck' Humza Yousaf

Conservatives claim the ditching of the Bute House Agreement marks the 'beginning of the end' for First Minister Humza Yousaf.

https://news.stv.tv/politics/scottish-tories-to-lodge-no-confidence-vote-in-lame-duck-humza-yousaf-after-green-deal-ends

INeedAPensieve · 25/04/2024 13:23

@Rainbowshit Shauny Boy's twitter and YouTube is full of these videos, not just the greens but others about all this. It's v funny. Another tragedy of this horrible ideology that even comedians have been too scared to make fun of it. He's a brave man! I swear I saw him when I was walking down Lothian road in Edinburgh about a year ago, I was like a fan girl haha.

I hope he does a video of their goodbye speech (with a cleaner in the background as well as the coffee maker) 😂

Cosmosforbreakfast · 25/04/2024 13:25

Glad to see one of the women hating, child endangering parties in ScotGov gone. Now let's hope it's not long before the other one goes too.

Mochudubh · 25/04/2024 13:34

Is there an FMQ's today?

Ignore me, I see there is.

EasternStandard · 25/04/2024 13:35

Vote of no confidence, very interesting

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/04/2024 14:28

Sorry for my ignorance but do the SNP not have a majority in Scotland, or is it something to do with devolution?

SaffronSpice · 25/04/2024 14:33

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/04/2024 14:28

Sorry for my ignorance but do the SNP not have a majority in Scotland, or is it something to do with devolution?

No, that is why they entered a coalition with the greens. They were a minority government last time too.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/04/2024 14:34

Who are the next biggest party, Labour?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/04/2024 14:35

I think I'm confusing the Scottish Parliament with the Westminster SNP contingent, my error!

Chersfrozenface · 25/04/2024 14:36

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/04/2024 14:28

Sorry for my ignorance but do the SNP not have a majority in Scotland, or is it something to do with devolution?

Not an overall majority of seats in the Scottish Parliament, no.

They have 63 of the 129 seats, so 2 short of an overall majority.
Greens - 7
Scottish Conservatives - 31
Labour - 22
Lib Dems - 4
Alba - 1
Plus Presiding Officer, no affiliation