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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The absolute brass neck of Ruth Hunt

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Rainbowshit · 13/04/2024 10:00

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fe117e6b-0b9b-4157-aeb6-23ad2f88e6ba?shareToken=309d7a26354dc115f9ce038238e47473

No. You're not going to get to rewrite history.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/04/2024 15:21

Tyntesfield · 14/04/2024 15:07

I can no longer see the comments under the Times article from the OP. They were overwhelmingly critical - have they been removed?

No, they're still there. The top rated comment is from Kate Harris of the LGB Alliance who points out that:
"The single reason Bev Jackson and I decided to set up LGB Alliance was precisely because Baroness Hunt refused to debate. So did Jan Gooding who took her place pre Nancy Kelley. Don't forget we have all the evidence. Stop the lies".

Abeona · 14/04/2024 15:29

@GC5 if I read your post correctly, Hunt went from Stonewall to running a diversity training company. Can you remember the name of the company? I've a horrible feeling that she might be behind major changes that happened to an organisation I once worked for.

Having made her money from diversity training, Hunt is now throwing herself behind the surrogacy industry. Her lack of judgment (or perhaps her venality) seems to know no limits.

LoobiJee · 14/04/2024 15:36

Abeona · 14/04/2024 15:29

@GC5 if I read your post correctly, Hunt went from Stonewall to running a diversity training company. Can you remember the name of the company? I've a horrible feeling that she might be behind major changes that happened to an organisation I once worked for.

Having made her money from diversity training, Hunt is now throwing herself behind the surrogacy industry. Her lack of judgment (or perhaps her venality) seems to know no limits.

@Abeona

Baroness Hunt’s new commercial enterprise is this one.

https://www.deedsandwords.co.uk/

There was also an interview with her in the last year or so where she described all the behind the scenes influencing she does in Parliament.

LoobiJee · 14/04/2024 15:36

Abeona · 14/04/2024 15:29

@GC5 if I read your post correctly, Hunt went from Stonewall to running a diversity training company. Can you remember the name of the company? I've a horrible feeling that she might be behind major changes that happened to an organisation I once worked for.

Having made her money from diversity training, Hunt is now throwing herself behind the surrogacy industry. Her lack of judgment (or perhaps her venality) seems to know no limits.

@Abeona

Baroness Hunt’s new commercial enterprise is this one.

https://www.deedsandwords.co.uk/

There was also an interview with her in the last year or so where she described all the behind the scenes influencing she does in Parliament.

PronounssheRa · 14/04/2024 15:39

https://www.deedsandwords.co.uk/about

Is hunts new venture, lots of words but for me a lack of detail on what they actually do.

Hunt baffles me. There is so much evidence of her position while at Stonewall, her own words, and the evidence of those who tried to engage.

Does hunt really believe her revised version of history or does she have such a high opinion of herself that she thinks she will just be believed or is she just brazen. It's so bizarre because its so easily disproved.

About Deeds and Words — Deeds and Words Ltd

https://www.deedsandwords.co.uk/about

Abeona · 14/04/2024 15:53

I don't know what to make of her. What is it about TRAs like Hunt and Whittle that they don't think twice about lying? Are they genuinely so detached from reality that they really believe that things they said on record won't be remembered by anyone else? Or do neither of them care about accuracy and truth?

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 15:59

Abeona · 14/04/2024 15:53

I don't know what to make of her. What is it about TRAs like Hunt and Whittle that they don't think twice about lying? Are they genuinely so detached from reality that they really believe that things they said on record won't be remembered by anyone else? Or do neither of them care about accuracy and truth?

I think they think that it's enough to make a statement saying what people want to hear. They will then present that as the true one and ignore/discount all evidence to the contrary as noise. Post-truth, innit.

FictionalCharacter · 14/04/2024 16:07

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/04/2024 10:45

J’accuse….

That image was all over twittx, and do you know what TRAs said when challenged about this child’s confused, miserable, haunted face? “He’s trying not to smile because not smiling looks more masculine”.
It’s all trans joy, no matter how clearly joyless.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 14/04/2024 16:19

Abeona · 14/04/2024 15:53

I don't know what to make of her. What is it about TRAs like Hunt and Whittle that they don't think twice about lying? Are they genuinely so detached from reality that they really believe that things they said on record won't be remembered by anyone else? Or do neither of them care about accuracy and truth?

I’ve been thinking about that because it seems to be a thing.

My theory is that it’s a form of self-preservation. If you’re starting with the premise that people can change sex then that’s stretching reality, and if you become invested enough in that, for whatever reason, then the one thing you absolutely can’t and mustn’t do is examine it too closely. Critical thinking could be fatal. And if you take that far enough, then accuracy and truth become relative terms.

ResisterRex · 14/04/2024 16:23

Maybe you just have to be a certain kind of person to get to the top of most organisations.

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 16:29

ResisterRex · 14/04/2024 16:23

Maybe you just have to be a certain kind of person to get to the top of most organisations.

Being leader of a pressure group/lobby organisation by definition has to be able to withstand attack and criticism, which can perhaps lead to a kind of resistance to all criticism.

Snowypeaks · 14/04/2024 16:31

ResisterRex · 14/04/2024 16:23

Maybe you just have to be a certain kind of person to get to the top of most organisations.

I firmly believe that. With a few exceptions, of course. But look at the Post Office scandal. Top brass seem like wall-to-wall sociopaths.

BeyondHumanKenneth · 14/04/2024 16:31

This article sheds a little more light on Hunt's new venture which appear to be a lobbying group working inside companies to 'evolve cultures' to be in tune with an unspecified set of values.

https://www.attitude.co.uk/news/ruth-hunt-stonewall-exit-house-of-lords-peer-444301/

"Our day together is set to involve an afternoon immersed in the Lords, alongside a meeting with Hunt and partner Caroline Ellis’s company Deeds and Words, which today sees them talking “values” with the London Fire Brigade’s communications team."

She appears to be have found a gap in the market for organisational leaders who want to have the right values but can't be bothered to do any actual thinking.

"She sees one of her key roles as being a convener of people “who want to do something about this stuff but don’t have time to understand it”.

The last few lines indicate that surrogacy is one of the values 'on her mind'.

"The topic at the top of her list moving forward is surrogacy. “It’s going to be a big theme for me because the Law Commission has recommended reform of surrogacy law, and that hasn’t been picked up here yet. It needs to be, really. That will have a huge impact on lots of gay men who are wanting to start families. So that’s on my mind.”

Basically this seems like Stonewall 2.0 - lobbying for organisational policy change while trying to fly completely under the radar while doing it. No wonder their website is so thin on details on what they actually do.

Baroness Ruth Hunt on quitting Stonewall and being 'way too young' for House of Lords

Former Stonewall CEO, Baroness Ruth Hunt on “always being head girl”, caming off Twitter for good, and her reasons for leaving Stonewall.

https://www.attitude.co.uk/news/ruth-hunt-stonewall-exit-house-of-lords-peer-444301

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 16:53

She appears to be have found a gap in the market for organisational leaders who want to have the right values but can't be bothered to do any actual thinking.

So it's a service for people who want to outsource their morals. Got it.

RedToothBrush · 14/04/2024 17:07

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 16:53

She appears to be have found a gap in the market for organisational leaders who want to have the right values but can't be bothered to do any actual thinking.

So it's a service for people who want to outsource their morals. Got it.

How to Do The Best Virtue Signaling From Your Armchair

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 17:08

How To Look Like You Give a Fuck.

viques · 14/04/2024 17:08

Well she’s already trodden her brogues heavily over womens rights to safe, secure, single sex spaces, so I suppose trampling over some more womens rights when it comes to surrogacy won’t be a step too far. Just so long as the boyz is happy eh Ruth?

mrshoho · 14/04/2024 17:13

To me Hunt appears to present as an intellectual sociopath/high functioning sociopath. A very odd but highly intelligent individual with an extremely high sense of self worth. I dont know what she was like to work for, it would be interesting to hear from ex Stonewall colleagues. Dominic Cummings comes across in a similar way.

ResisterRex · 14/04/2024 17:19

Funny you should mention Dominic Cummings. He seems to have nothing but disdain for the onward march of gender woo, he's been quite open about it. Most recently, he retweeted JKR and said this:

"Tory MPs went along with all this madness & helped it spread & entrench across Whitehall exactly as you'd expect - on this as on ~everything (crime, tax, regulation, DEI) tories are functionally equivalent to Labour, only some rhetoric differs. A Cameroon party by definition is something that follows every revolting fashion of London intelligentsia downstream from the Bay Area, it's what Cameron/Osborne think the point of politics is"

x.com/dominic2306/status/1779166951245324748?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

WarriorN · 14/04/2024 17:22

"Values" appears to be the new version of EDI

WarriorN · 14/04/2024 17:22

"Values based education"

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 14/04/2024 17:29

No surprise if she’s moving into justifying surrogacy, there’s plenty of money in that and she’s the perfect person to front it as a gay rights thing. Utterly without scruple.

RedToothBrush · 14/04/2024 17:34

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 14/04/2024 17:29

No surprise if she’s moving into justifying surrogacy, there’s plenty of money in that and she’s the perfect person to front it as a gay rights thing. Utterly without scruple.

Follow the money indeed.

RethinkingLife · 14/04/2024 17:49

Reproductive justice is set to be a cash cow and to facilitate the introduction of commercial surrogacy that will be paid for by the NHS.

mrshoho · 14/04/2024 17:52

ResisterRex · 14/04/2024 17:19

Funny you should mention Dominic Cummings. He seems to have nothing but disdain for the onward march of gender woo, he's been quite open about it. Most recently, he retweeted JKR and said this:

"Tory MPs went along with all this madness & helped it spread & entrench across Whitehall exactly as you'd expect - on this as on ~everything (crime, tax, regulation, DEI) tories are functionally equivalent to Labour, only some rhetoric differs. A Cameroon party by definition is something that follows every revolting fashion of London intelligentsia downstream from the Bay Area, it's what Cameron/Osborne think the point of politics is"

x.com/dominic2306/status/1779166951245324748?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Ha, well he's right on that I agree!

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