The absolute brass neck of Ruth Hunt

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fe117e6b-0b9b-4157-aeb6-23ad2f88e6ba?shareToken=309d7a26354dc115f9ce038238e47473

No. You're not going to get to rewrite history.

So sorry to read this GC5.

WarriorN · Yesterday 19:27

BBC WhatsApp story. Released on the day WhatsApp reduced from 16 to 13 last week.

Holy fucking shit! We're in North Tyneside and my daughter is in Y6. This is the first I've heard of it! She's totally TWAW.

I'll have to ask if she's on this group. Group chats are specifically banned at her school, but she's admitted being on two and has had some abuse.

@SinnerBoy I think the relevant schools sent out emails. But I must say my own didn't and neither did the middle (not NT.) it may have been too late for Easter hols ?

and do I know you?!

https://twitter.com/supertolerant/status/1779146428125753776?t=Xu2Bw67sDBeJw3QzXhC-pw&s=19

Oof.

What an absolutely shameless slippery customer. Stonewall’s mis representation of the law was supported hugely financially by the public purse. There needs to be a public inquiry into the role of government and the influence and funding that Stonewall gained around gender identity issues.
The charity’s encouragement on Hunt’s watch (and then Kelley’s) of a hostile environment around women and men raising any questions of their position has been appalling.

Hunt as charity’s boss lost Stonewall its hard won moral leadership and expert professional authority by permitting ‘Stonelaw’ to be promoted to other organisations and promoting authoritarian and divisive absolutes like #nodebate. Her tenure responded with hostility rather than openness when valid questions were raised.

Luckily the MN archive is there for future historians and are full of links to evidence what went on at the time: for example

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3384455-Ruth-Hunt-Stonewall-do-not-and-will-not-acknowledge-that-there-is-a-conflict-between-trans-rights-and-sex-based-women-s-rights

Worringly I notice that the relevant source link at Stonewall, has been removed from Stonewall’s website. This link was to the charity’s outrageous response when headed by Ruth Hunt to a very reasonable petition signed by key figures asking for dialogue, pasted below.

That removal of a key policy statement doesn’t look good for Stonewall’s transparency. We clearly need the legal authority of a public inquiry to get to the bottom of Stonewall’s part in the widespread organisational capture in the UK and authoritarian climate on the gender identity issue.

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/stonewall-stories-category/come-out-lgbt/our-work-trans-equality-heart-our-mission-acceptance - now a broken link

The original petition has also been tampered with, by who knows who, again worrying, but its text stands up today: https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

‘Stonewall was founded in 1989 to fight for the civil rights of gay, lesbian and bisexual people. It has played a leading role in advancing these rights, from the abolition of Margaret Thatcher’s hated Section 28, to securing an equal age of consent, civil partnerships and gay marriage.
Since 2015, Stonewall has also campaigned on trans issues. We believe the organisation has made mistakes in its approach. These mistakes are undermining women’s sex-based rights and protections, and damaging the relationship between transsexual people and women - a relationship which had been positive for many years.
On Oct 19th the Government’s public consultation on proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act closes, so it is important that there should be debates amongst us all about transgender politics and the rights of women and girls. Stonewall disagrees and calls debate on this matter of public policy transphobic.
Stonewall’s promotion of the concept of 'gender identity’, which has it that a man or woman is anyone (of either sex) who identifies as such, is also undermining the basis of lesbian, gay and bisexual identities as orientated around same-sex attraction. Lesbians in particular are coming under pressure to accept male-bodied trans women into their spaces and as sexual partners.
At the moment, Stonewall is failing in three key ways:

• By uncritically adopting a form of transgender politics which undermines the sex-based rights of women and the concept of homosexuality itself
• By refusing to recognise the diversity of viewpoints on these issues, including among LGBT people.
• By seeking to prevent public debate of these issues by branding as transphobic anyone who questions Stonewall’s current trans policies.

We call on Stonewall to:

• Acknowledge that there are a range of valid viewpoints around sex, gender and transgender politics
• Acknowledge specifically the conflict that exists between transgenderism and sex-based women’s rights
• Commit to fostering an atmosphere of respectful debate, rather than demonising as transphobic those who wish to discuss or dissent from Stonewall’s current policies’

The petition fell on deaf ears under Hunt and those who have followed which is very shocking, considering the charity’s founding history, that it could undermine its own support for same sex attraction.

Founding signatories, in alphabetical order:

Jonathan Best, former director of Queer Up North International Festival

Julie Bindel, journalist and feminist campaigner

Paul Burston, author

Maureen Chadwick, screenwriter

Beatrix Cambell OBE, writer

James Dreyfus, actor

Eileen Gallagher OBE, television producer

Claire Graham, intersex advocate

Darren Johnson, London Assembly Member 2000-2016

Dr. Jane Clare Jones, writer and philosopher

Kate Harris, former Stonewall supporter

Jane Harris, author

Kristina Harrison, socialist campaigner and transwoman

Philip Hensher, author

Graham Linehan, writer

Ann McManus, screenwriter

Alison Moyet, musician

Ann Sinnott, former Labour councillor

Kathleen Stock, philosopher

Professor Sophie Scott, cognitive neuroscientist

Caroline Spry, television producer

Miranda Yardley, transsexual rights activist

Utterly shocking and unforgivable.

https://twitter.com/Belstaffie/status/1779263617344348487

Thanks to #RuthHunt, #StonewallUK, et al, I underwent a five year campaign of hatred against me and my property, from my community in #Todmorden, because I am a genuine, gender critical lesbian.

These were all “queer”. middle class, white heterosexuals.

I was banned from the Golden Lion and all venues where trans people were, because I was “transphobic”.

I was even banned from the #TodmordenWomensDisco for complaining about men claiming to be trans”lesbians” being welcomed in, after being staunchly all female for a whopping 30 years.

My vehicles were attacked, my windows smashed, I was shunned and had graffiti scrawled around the town about me.

I was stalked and attacked by a man in Manchester because of the hatred Ruth Hunt whipped up against lesbians.

He threw two bottles of milkshake at me. We thought it was acid.

With Victim Support’s help, I was rehoused and I am still in hiding from TRAs. Thats why I went very quiet for a while.

The homophobia she unleashed against lesbians, has damaged us beyond repair, I feel.

I’ve told my new neighbours that my husband is in jail and may get his parole soon. (Silence). Then change the subject.

You may laugh, but I’m a survivor. I didn’t expect to have to lie about my sexual orientation for safety reasons in #UK2024 at my age!

That’s the damage RH and StonewallUK have done to this genuine lesbian!

So eff you very much, Ruth Hunt!

@Slothtoes the wayback machine is your friend

web.archive.org/web/20181005225111/www.stonewall.org.uk/stonewall-stories-category/come-out-lgbt/our-work-trans-equality-heart-our-mission-acceptance

GC5 and Heylo

WarriorN · Today 08:12

SinnerBoy I think the relevant schools sent out emails.

Neither of us have had an email, but I've put it on the class What's App group and some replies say it was on the school gateway app, which I cannot access.

‘Stonewall’s mis representation of the law was supported hugely financially by the public purse. There needs to be a public inquiry into the role of government and the influence and funding that Stonewall gained around gender identity issues.

The charity’s encouragement on Hunt’s watch (and then Kelley’s) of a hostile environment around women and men raising any questions of their position has been appalling’

Public equity into Ruth Hunt and Stonewall now. Revoke her cushy seat in the Lords. Baroness - Bullshit.

Petition for Ruth Hunt to lose her peerage - pls sign!

this weasel has affected so many groups- kids, lesbians, vulnerable women.

I hope someone starts a petition for criminal investigations to begin, immediately into key figures who advised schools and councils to socially transition children without parents knowledge.

https://www.change.org/p/strip-ruth-hunt-of-her-peerage-for-her-role-in-the-gender-medical-scandal?recruiter=45366175&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_medium=whatsapp&utm_content=washarecopy_490008571_en-GB%3Acv_1043893&recruited_by_id=882f54c0-7860-0130-b027-3c764e046567&share_bandit_exp=initial-490008571-en-GB

Signed

Thank you for the link ResistorRex

MidgeGreensteet I’m so sorry to hear that your child and you had to go through such awful experiences.

Transcript of the section on religion from the LSE talk on Stonewall:

'‘God:

So, Stonewall does a huge amount of work with god, and on God’s behalf …

Stonewall has done extensive work with the Catholic community, the Church of England, and with, increasingly, Evangelical Pentecostal communities as well, mainly utilising, ah, heterosexual teenagers, and allies. So, teenage girls from Evangelical Pentecostal communities, teaching them how to be amazing campaigners for equality – you do not mess with a Pentecostal, Evangelical, teenage girl. So we are making inroads into these different communities.’

At around 37 minutes.

So, teenage girls from Evangelical Pentecostal communities, teaching them how to be amazing campaigners for equality

By making them responsible for everyone else’s well being (Be Kind!).

Yes. It was the 'utilising' that shocked me, (which to be pedantic I had misrembered as 'using' but wasn't sure of, which is why I went back and transcribed). I don't like powerful lobbyists talking about using children/girls.

Thank you for this @ResisterRex

'Acceptance without exception'. That catchy slogan didn't age well! As we heard of one after the other deviant and violant Males identifying as women.

utilising is even worse than using

but blimey “So, Stonewall does a huge amount of work with god, and on God’s behalf…“ that’s a full-on messiah complex right there.

https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-charity

If the Charity Commission receives enough evidence and complaints about Stonewall, they will have to investigate.

Excellent and remarkably on point.

Isn't it just.

Hunt's talk is breathtaking egotism sprinkled with righteousness.

I can no longer see the comments under the Times article from the OP. They were overwhelmingly critical - have they been removed?

This just adds another layer of sinister to it all - indoctrinating teenage girls to push her dogma and punish non believers. No wonder this ideology has taken hold in the US particularly.

It's like the Children's Crusade meets the Crucible.