Labour infighting over trans issues reignited by Cass Review

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But Rosie Duffield, a Labour MP placed under investigation by the party last year for campaigning against gender ideology, pointed out that women who had exposed the scandal had been “blanked, sidelined and dismissed” by male leaders simply for speaking up.

And feminist Julie Bindel demanded an apology from Mr Streeting for failing to support her gender-critical views when he was president of the National Union of Students.

In reply to Ms Bindel’s accusation, Mr Streeting replied: “From memory (16 years on, so correct me if I’m wrong!) I replied to confirm that you weren’t on NUS’ no platform policy and as this was in relation to a motion passed by the autonomous women’s campaign I was not empowered to overturn it (not least as a male president!).”

This prompted Ms Duffield to retweet the (Les Streeting) statement, with the message: “To the many women blanked, sidelined, dismissed by male leaders when speaking up and exposing this for years.”

And Ms Bindel wrote: “Glad to see you are now openly critical of the gender ideology that led to the atrocities against children outlined in the Cass report.

“I am open to accepting an apology from you. In 2008, when you were NUS president, I was no-platformed alongside five fascist groups for ‘transphobia’.

“I contacted you and asked for your help. You gave none. I asked you to condemn those that had orchestrated the no-platforming, and you refused.

“Have you any idea of the reputational damage this caused me? How it gave others permission to no-platform, denounce and defame me?
“How it meant that I could be slandered by other organisations, and so many, many universities around the UK and elsewhere? If this sounds bitter then good, because I am.”

To this message, Ms Duffield said: “Thank you for leading us all here Julie. Without you, most of us wouldn’t have had a clue what had been happening to children who were far too young to have the critical faculties or agency to consent.”

Extracts not full article in Telegraph https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/10/labour-infighting-over-trans-issues-reignited-cass-review/

Also at https://archive.ph/IfNp8

Earlier thread about Wes Streeting https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5047018-wes-streeting-labour-shadow-health-secretary-pledges-support-for-the-cass-reviews-evidence-led-recommendations-and-our-determination-to-put-childrens-health-and-wellbeing-above-the-political-fray

You do not know. you do not know how I want to vote and you need to stop throwing out your hideous allegations. You're deflecting because you can't defend Kier and it's as good as an admission that he in fact is a misogynist.

Please explain how that is relevant to the point that starmer is misogynist? He's neither in power, nor in charge of rape support organisations

My problem with Labour throughout my entire voting life is how '6th form politics' they are. Petty, sniping, purity spirals, inability to hold coherent debate.

Not one of the uber Labour supporters on MN persuades me that my interpretation is wrong!

Oh Jesus wept. That fucking stupid comment again.

It's astoundingly rude to make such allegations just because you don't like people criticising your preferred party. Ridiculous, childish, behaviour. Standard though.

What "hideous allegations" are you talking about?? I'm sticking to facts

And then the 'you just want a conservative government' idiotic comment. I think we've just moved from.no debate to no sensible or respectful debate. It's pathetic.

You know as a fact that I want a Conservative government do you? Are you magic Meg or something then?

Facts? Your interpretation of what you read is rarely factual.

I'm intrigued whether it's deliberate or your comprehension is just woeful.

Good god are you following this at all? you said that women are not denied rape supports
That's blatantly false. I'm responding to what you're saying. It might help if you tried to do the same.

He could say, "This is terrible and shouldn't be happening. When I am in power I will ensure that rape crisis centres provide both single sex support to women who need it as well as support for trans people."

WTAF?! You literally just said this: 'It's very clear you want a conservative government, just own it instead of smearing the opposition.'

Yes you did Adam. Yes you bloody did. And yes I'm triggered by your aggressive argumentative disrespectful and fact free style. Stop putting words in my mouth. it's a shit thing to do.

They're not even following their own posts, let alone anyone else's!

Is Adam a collective of people, which is why they can't recall their 'own' posts?!

Sorry. I'm pissed and I don't know what this means:
women are not denied rape supports

I can't explain things to a drunk person..Read this all back when you're sober. It's not complicated. Top tip. Read the whole sentence nor just parts of it.

I am not aggressive. Disagreement is not aggression

It literally has an extra 's'.

@literalviolence said: 'You said that women are not denied rape support,' (removing the extra 's'). That is not hard to understand. She disagrees with you.

Oh get a grip
I don't agree with you. That's OK. It does not mean I'm a "collective", a bot, a shill or anything else.

Your contrary misrepresentation comes across as aggression.

Disagreement does not have to be aggressive. Telling someone that they just want a conservative government then denying you said that. is aggressive IMO.

Again, answering something which isn't there. My comment was about you denying having said something you just had. You then edited that post.

Drink some water and go to bed, Adam.

Her point clearly is not that you don't agree it's that you are all over the place, not following a basic thread of conversation, saying things then denying you've said them. Honestly and kindly, I think you should stop posting. You don't seem in a fit state to. You can come and defend Kier to your hearts content tomorrow and maybe you will do so with enough sense to convince someone then.

What? What is "you them"?