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KjK "insane rant" thread 2

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AdamRyan · 03/04/2024 18:10

First thread filled up just as it was getting interesting

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5036512-kjks-insane-rant

So let's keep it going. My characterisation if the two basic positions are:

1)KJK is a stone cold legend, haters gonna hate but many women will give her cash to bathe in champagne

  1. KJK is taking right wing positions for clicks and cash, most recently criticising a doctors conference to stay relevant.

Happy to discuss further. There are some particular posts I want to respond to which I will c&p below

KJK’s insane rant | Mumsnet

Kjk’s decision to attack everyone who is not her lapdog is increasingly destructive. It looks like Can-sg put on a great conference. Those doctors who...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5036512-kjks-insane-rant

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AdamRyan · 08/04/2024 13:37

NefertitiV · 08/04/2024 13:24

@AdamRyan

That JKR image - Confused I mean, she's wonderful, but to deify her?

I know! Very very strange...

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NefertitiV · 09/04/2024 02:50

Another dodgy tweet from Kellie-Jay Keen. This one shows a group of young people spraying red paint on the outside facade of Labour HQ. They also did it to the offices inside. KJ's comment? "There’s a little reaping and sowing going on."

https://x.com/theposieparker/status/1777379670565990688?s=61&t=3wYru9P_J0h74BXKFXAfmw

Does this remove any doubt about her politics?

And this tweet:

"^If you still fear right wing cooties you need to grow up. This is not a war that can be won whilst being manipulated by men on the left.
Women, we are not served by the political divides created by men.^"

https://x.com/justnatalieek/status/1777335848800752105?s=61&t=3wYru9PJ0h74BXKFXAfmw

mrshoho · 09/04/2024 07:42

Who cares about her politics. KJK has always made it clear her priority is women's rights and the protection of children. It's no surprise to me if she is not aligned with Labour. I don't know if she was at any time a Labour party member and I don't care.

334bu · 09/04/2024 07:52

I didn't know that Stop Oil were extreme right activists, maybe Antifa should show up and protest against them Thanks for that info Nefertiti.

AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 07:57

Someone said saying she was right wing was a slur upthread Confused So obviously her politics are important to some.

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AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 07:59

Antifa is an American thing 334. They are banned in the UK I think.
Maybe you should stop projecting American left/right wars onto British culture.

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mrshoho · 09/04/2024 08:06

What vast experience do you have Adam to quantify your claim that GC Feminists are more often on the Israeli government side? That's quite a statement.

NefertitiV · 09/04/2024 08:13

mrshoho · 09/04/2024 07:42

Who cares about her politics. KJK has always made it clear her priority is women's rights and the protection of children. It's no surprise to me if she is not aligned with Labour. I don't know if she was at any time a Labour party member and I don't care.

I'm sorry, MrsHoho - this isn't aimed specifically at you - but there have been many comments like this on this thread. Apathy like this is what groups like CPAC are counting on. I wouldn't be as concerned if the politics were more moderate, but they are not. It is important to take note of things like this in everyone we admire and boost as activists and campaigners for change.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 09/04/2024 08:16

Does this remove any doubt about her politics?

i dont care about her politics, but no…it doesn’t remove any doubt about her politics

why on earth would you think it would?

i know a few tories who complain about this government….doesn’t make them not tory

OldCrone · 09/04/2024 08:19

AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 07:57

Someone said saying she was right wing was a slur upthread Confused So obviously her politics are important to some.

You, apparently.

OldCrone · 09/04/2024 08:20

Maybe you should stop projecting American left/right wars onto British culture.

😂

OldCrone · 09/04/2024 08:25

NefertitiV · 09/04/2024 08:13

I'm sorry, MrsHoho - this isn't aimed specifically at you - but there have been many comments like this on this thread. Apathy like this is what groups like CPAC are counting on. I wouldn't be as concerned if the politics were more moderate, but they are not. It is important to take note of things like this in everyone we admire and boost as activists and campaigners for change.

Apathy?

AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 08:29

Oh, you are back oldcrone. What did you think of the GB News article about Farage's speech at CPAC? Did you see any issues with it? I've been wondering what your opinion was.

Also looking forward to some more right leaning commentary that explains why CPAC is just a Thatcherite movement and nothing to be concerned about.

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illinivich · 09/04/2024 08:33

NefertitiV · 09/04/2024 02:50

Another dodgy tweet from Kellie-Jay Keen. This one shows a group of young people spraying red paint on the outside facade of Labour HQ. They also did it to the offices inside. KJ's comment? "There’s a little reaping and sowing going on."

https://x.com/theposieparker/status/1777379670565990688?s=61&t=3wYru9P_J0h74BXKFXAfmw

Does this remove any doubt about her politics?

And this tweet:

"^If you still fear right wing cooties you need to grow up. This is not a war that can be won whilst being manipulated by men on the left.
Women, we are not served by the political divides created by men.^"

https://x.com/justnatalieek/status/1777335848800752105?s=61&t=3wYru9PJ0h74BXKFXAfmw

Doesn't bode well for safeguarding in the next parliament if even mildest criticism of labour is dismissed as right wing.

AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 08:40

illinivich · 09/04/2024 08:33

Doesn't bode well for safeguarding in the next parliament if even mildest criticism of labour is dismissed as right wing.

Calling it a "war" and saying that men on the left are manipulating women is not "mild criticism". I find it pretty aggressive (and I'm an old school feminist who's been called a "man hater" more often then I care to remember)

But you know, that's just KJK. Can't expect her to change her ways.

Not sure why "men of the left" are the enemy in her war though. All the self ID nonsense has happened under a right wing government.

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mrshoho · 09/04/2024 08:42

AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 08:29

Oh, you are back oldcrone. What did you think of the GB News article about Farage's speech at CPAC? Did you see any issues with it? I've been wondering what your opinion was.

Also looking forward to some more right leaning commentary that explains why CPAC is just a Thatcherite movement and nothing to be concerned about.

I keep reading comments from you regarding CPAC such as this one stating CPAC is just a Thatcherite movement but I'm confused. Doesn't CPAC stand for Conservative Political Action Conference? So it's an annual conference rather than an actual group. From reading, the conference is hosted by American Conservative Union to bring together Conservative activists and politicians to speak.

Scotcheggz · 09/04/2024 08:43

Is kjk pro Palestine? That surprises me. Is there a tweet or something?

AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 08:46

mrshoho · 09/04/2024 08:42

I keep reading comments from you regarding CPAC such as this one stating CPAC is just a Thatcherite movement but I'm confused. Doesn't CPAC stand for Conservative Political Action Conference? So it's an annual conference rather than an actual group. From reading, the conference is hosted by American Conservative Union to bring together Conservative activists and politicians to speak.

You need to read the end of the last thread and oldcrone posts on this one.
There is an ongoing debate about whether or not KJK has links to the far right, and whether the fact CPAC funded her Oz microphone trip counts

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OldCrone · 09/04/2024 08:52

AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 08:29

Oh, you are back oldcrone. What did you think of the GB News article about Farage's speech at CPAC? Did you see any issues with it? I've been wondering what your opinion was.

Also looking forward to some more right leaning commentary that explains why CPAC is just a Thatcherite movement and nothing to be concerned about.

🙄

OldCrone · 09/04/2024 08:55

mrshoho · 09/04/2024 08:42

I keep reading comments from you regarding CPAC such as this one stating CPAC is just a Thatcherite movement but I'm confused. Doesn't CPAC stand for Conservative Political Action Conference? So it's an annual conference rather than an actual group. From reading, the conference is hosted by American Conservative Union to bring together Conservative activists and politicians to speak.

That's what I think as well.

Adam thinks it's a shady cabal of far right activists plotting to take over the world.

OldCrone · 09/04/2024 08:56

Scotcheggz · 09/04/2024 08:43

Is kjk pro Palestine? That surprises me. Is there a tweet or something?

What the hell has Palestine got to do with protecting women's rights and campaigning against experimenting on children?

OldCrone · 09/04/2024 08:57

AdamRyan · 09/04/2024 08:46

You need to read the end of the last thread and oldcrone posts on this one.
There is an ongoing debate about whether or not KJK has links to the far right, and whether the fact CPAC funded her Oz microphone trip counts

Some of us don't actually care who funded her trip or who she votes for.

illinivich · 09/04/2024 09:13

Not sure why "men of the left" are the enemy in her war though. All the self ID nonsense has happened under a right wing government.

The whole thing - GRA and the PC of GR is self id.

No one goes to the doctors with a headache and gets diagnosis with having a gender. No one is told that they dont have a gender.

Men who claim to be women are affirmed by healthcare professionals, pay £5 and get female birth certificates. Men can get a female passport without any doctors note by saying they are cross dressers.

The only thing thats changed under this government is the fee.

Its not a left/right policy. Its an anti safeguarding policy. The only way we can stop this safeguarding nightmare is to highlight what a safeguarding nighmare it is.

But you are determined to stop people talking about it. Well done you.

mrshoho · 09/04/2024 09:19

And I am almost certain that KJK did speak about this last year. From memory I think she confirmed CPAC were covering/sponsoring the insurance for these events. As I understand her travel and accommodation costs etc were not. If in doubt and you have concerns you could always contact her for clarification.

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