Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are

1000 replies

LargeSquareRock · 01/04/2024 12:14

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1774747068944265615?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

OP posts:
Thread gallery
91
BlackeyedSusan · 02/04/2024 11:32

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/04/2024 20:24

@Cazpar https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3mn9k/mumsnet-uk-mom-forum-terf-transphobia-feminism

"Since 2016, Mumsnetspecifically its Feminism boardoard_--has increasingly found itself on the receiving end of criticism from trans people and their allies. “When I started using Twitter and engaging in the trans sphere in mid-2017, Mumsnet was constantly referenced both on my timeline and in DMs,” says Joss Prior, a trans woman who is part of a sizable trans community that monitors and discusses Mumsnet regularly. “The whole of the Feminism board was like a spectre hanging over the daily trans discourse.”^

Prior points to the now partially-deleted but notorious 2016 “I Am Spartacus” thread in which a user asserted that “men cannot become women, ever. Women cannot become men, ever” and went on to misgender a number of trans men and women, including high-profile campaigners Paris Lees and Danielle Muscato. The post sparked thousands of supportive comments and is consistently referenced in up-to-date threads, with “I am Spartacus” acting as a shorthand rallying call for anti-trans feminists. Attempts have even been made to organize campaigning activityty_ around the phrase.^

In March of this year, Mumsnet was used to organize against Girlguiding’s trans-inclusive membership policyy in collaboration with anti-self identification campaign group Fair Play For Women. Users also responded to Gender Recognition Act proposalss that would allow trans people to self-identify with protests such as Man Fridayy, a campaign that encourages cis women “identify as men on Fridays"" and partake in male behaviours like “manspreading and mansplaining” or to access single sex male spaces such as changing rooms, swimming facilities, or sports clubs.
It’s a core group of a few hundred hardcore trans-exclusionary radical feminists (TERFs), a tiny percentage of overall users,” says Christine, the mother of a trans child and also part of the network that regularly monitors Mumsnet. (Christine’s name has been changed for privacy reasons.) “Yet the Feminism board is just 90 percent discussions about trans people on any given day.”
Testing this out across four consecutive days, I found threads about trans rights and related topics to consistently dominate the Feminism board, with new threads appearing more than hourly and the handful of unrelated topics receiving only a fraction of the same engagement in terms of comment numbers. Topics during this time included discussions about specific trans campaigners, gender reassignment surgery for children, and the now-closed Gender Recognition Act consultationon. Searches for the names of high-profile trans women throw up many instances of deadnaming and misgendering amid sometimes intensely personal insults. A search of my own name returns a post calling me “a witless handmaiden”n” for supporting trans people on Twitter." (Continues)

No comment, but that remark wasn't me! At the time I wondered if it was.

Remind me, who was it that got their dick out at work and shared photos of it?

DisappearingGirl · 02/04/2024 11:32

So the person who wrote/said it doesn't need to be in Scotland

And the person reporting it doesn't need to be in Scotland

And there's no clarity on what "it" actually consists of

So they are expecting Police Scotland to police petty grievances hate incidents across the entire world?

KellieJaysLapdog · 02/04/2024 11:34

DisappearingGirl · 02/04/2024 11:32

So the person who wrote/said it doesn't need to be in Scotland

And the person reporting it doesn't need to be in Scotland

And there's no clarity on what "it" actually consists of

So they are expecting Police Scotland to police petty grievances hate incidents across the entire world?

Seems like it.

Better hope no one gets raped or murdered in Scotland this week because the Scotscops are on Twitter duty for the foreseeable!

KellieJaysLapdog · 02/04/2024 11:36

BlackeyedSusan · 02/04/2024 11:32

Remind me, who was it that got their dick out at work and shared photos of it?

Jess Bradley.

(I see Bradley about fairly regularly. Doesn’t seem to bother with the blouses and purple lipstick these days!)

duc748 · 02/04/2024 11:54

At least the numbers have increased from six or so, to a few hundred!

Mmmnotsure · 02/04/2024 11:55

Colin Wynter on Twitter/X referring to the Hate Monster Act.

Tallisker · 02/04/2024 12:12

Who knew Scot Squad was a documentary, not a comedy show?

CantDealwithChristmas · 02/04/2024 12:18

Is there anything JK Rowling can't do?

  1. Wrote a classic fantasy series on a par with Lord of the Rings, which got generations of children reading and explored complex themes such as the complexity of moral choices, responsibilities to community vs individuals, freedom of will vs tyranny of circumstance and much more besides
  2. Through films and other media turned it into one of Britain's biggest cultural exports of the last two decades, buying us £ billions in cultural soft power on a global stage
  3. In another series of novels, exploring the subtlety and complexity of trauma and modern misogyny whilst writing more cracking good stories
  4. Put her money where her mouth is with countless charitable endeavours
  5. Rather than lie back on her £ millions and do nothing, now putting herself on the line to speak out for vulnerable women and children who have no voice.

All Hail the Queen.

Is JKR a stone cold legend? To quote one of her literary creations: "ALWAYS".

NotBadConsidering · 02/04/2024 12:23

I posted on the first page of this thread and I have now caught up with it and have read every post. I am in utter awe at the brave women who have put themselves at the forefront of this forum having experienced the trauma they have. You shouldn’t have to disclose that to justify anything, but the fact you’re willing to do so makes you all just as brave and inspiring as JKR in my eyes, and all while doing it with an incredibly wicked sense of humour as well. So to all of you:

Flowers👏👏👏

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2024 12:53

Is there anything JK Rowling can't do?

She hasn’t been round to fix my guttering yet, which I feel is a significant shortcoming.

Musomama1 · 02/04/2024 12:56

BiscuitTins · 01/04/2024 16:25

This, all day long
She brings sunlight, but also draws the fire.
Totally amazing

Absolutely, I feel very moved too @BiscuitTins

I think all us long term readers of FWR just immediately see JKRs moves for what they actually are - ultimate altruism.

Thank you JKR. ♥️👏💝 Living her characters I think in terms of bravery and courage, more than the actual actors could ever imagine.

NitroNine · 02/04/2024 12:56

The editor of the Squibbler has helpfully demonstrated they literally do not understand perspective 🤣

The TwiX-post of theirs I mentioned earlier now has a Community Note that requires more ratings, including the helpful info that Rowling was on her hols like (apparently) a third of British adults over Easter; & her location has no bearing on criminality (or otherwise) of her TwiXing. Noter “helpfully” added that JKR is demonstrating the law is clusterfuck, as Scotland’s police chief has pointed out (evidenced with “Guardian” article). (I have very much paraphrased, no profanity was included.)

JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are
WarriorN · 02/04/2024 13:17

Professor Sarah Pederson has spoken to some news sites in the EU about the hate bill/ thingy ; she says it's clear that JK has shone a spotlight on this globally 😍

x.com/sarahpedersen2/status/1775128420474642719?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

WarriorN · 02/04/2024 13:18

Have now spoken to Le Monde, France 24 and a US news broadcaster about Scotland's hate crime law. I suppose at least Scotland is getting international attention - although possibly not the positive coverage our tourism industry would like...

What was clear was that this issue has been picked up globally, particularly because of the actions of @jk_rowling (I do make the point that there are very many other women involved as well!)

WarriorN · 02/04/2024 13:18

Eu and us....

CantDealwithChristmas · 02/04/2024 13:31

Waitwhat23 · 02/04/2024 10:00

It's Humza Yousaf - Scotland's First Minister. I believe he was using a scooter after rupturing his achilles heel.

I'm inclined to find it a bit mean spirited tbh. It's played or referred to constantly.

It's apposite because it symbolises the wider chaos and pratfalls of his government. In the same way, Neil Kinnock falling over in the sea in 1992 wasn't funny because it was Neil Kinnock falling over in the sea. It provided a handy visual metaphor of the pratfalls and embarrassments of his party's campaign.

RoyalCorgi · 02/04/2024 13:34

(I see Bradley about fairly regularly. Doesn’t seem to bother with the blouses and purple lipstick these days!)

Tell us more! I've always wondered what happened to Bradley. They seemed to have disappeared without trace.

WarriorN · 02/04/2024 13:36

What's this about?!

JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are
WarriorN · 02/04/2024 13:37

Oh world at one, radio 4, 1:21

dapsnotplimsolls · 02/04/2024 13:40

Yup, denying the knicker-thievery. Feels sorry for JKR>

Waitwhat23 · 02/04/2024 13:46

CantDealwithChristmas · 02/04/2024 13:31

It's apposite because it symbolises the wider chaos and pratfalls of his government. In the same way, Neil Kinnock falling over in the sea in 1992 wasn't funny because it was Neil Kinnock falling over in the sea. It provided a handy visual metaphor of the pratfalls and embarrassments of his party's campaign.

On the one hand, yes. On the other, an already injured person possibly injuring themselves further.

I'm absolutely no fan of the SNP or Humza BTW.

IcakethereforeIam · 02/04/2024 13:52

If the .gif stopped before the bit where Humza falls over, it'd still show him up imo. His aide having to gallop after him, ffs, and the camera set up to record him trying too hard.

WarriorN · 02/04/2024 13:54

🤣😂🙃

JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are
AlecTrevelyan006 · 02/04/2024 13:54

WarriorN · 02/04/2024 13:17

Professor Sarah Pederson has spoken to some news sites in the EU about the hate bill/ thingy ; she says it's clear that JK has shone a spotlight on this globally 😍

x.com/sarahpedersen2/status/1775128420474642719?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

it's shame in a way that it takes someone like JKR to make people stop and think, but of course, hats off to her. Plenty of other rich famous celebs have hidden away like cowards.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.