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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Name badge...it's happening

199 replies

Isthisexpected · 27/03/2024 16:25

Been told my new name badge with my pronouns on is coming next week. I haven't even been asked what my pronouns are... I don't intend to wear it because I don't hold the belief system it represents. But I now fear for my job/ stress levels are raised thinking about what's to come. Ignoring it is no longer an option...that has worked with email signatures....

What have you done?

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Snowypeaks · 29/03/2024 10:37

I don’t actually know anyone who wants to do this including trans people.

Opinions vary, but to my mind it's an "in group" vs "out group" thing more than anything.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/03/2024 10:43

Relaxd · 29/03/2024 10:32

I don’t actually know anyone who wants to do this including trans people.

The trans women I know have adopted very obviously feminine names such as Chloe and Amy.

If I saw someone with a name badge saying "Amy" on it, I would assume they wanted to be referred to using feminine pronouns.

Crankywiddershins · 29/03/2024 11:12

SkiingIsHeaven · 29/03/2024 09:32

Say he/him and you want the pay rise that goes with being a man.

Alternatively, she/we so you are literally taking the piss.

"She/we" 🤣 you're awful!

Gettingbysomehow · 29/03/2024 11:16

I've told my employers that this is an absolute deal breaker for me.
I'll respect the wishes of anyone who comes in for healthcare and be civil like I would for anyone else but I will not put my pronouns on my email or name badge end of.......
They are so desperately short staffed they never push it. There is nobody else to do the work I do.

Crankywiddershins · 29/03/2024 11:18

anyolddinosaur · 29/03/2024 10:14

@Ineedtoletoffsteam If that badge is genuine I salute you. I especially like fe/fi/fo/fum and fi/fae/farce but the whole list is admirable.

Fi/Fae/farce is an option? Well why didn't someone tell me before?

Chaps! And chapesses/chapx (don't want any accidental Misgendering) I think I found my pronouns!

Ineedtoletoffsteam · 29/03/2024 12:34

anyolddinosaur · 29/03/2024 10:14

@Ineedtoletoffsteam If that badge is genuine I salute you. I especially like fe/fi/fo/fum and fi/fae/farce but the whole list is admirable.

Unfortunately it's not real, I wish it was.
This sort of thing makes me appreciate the fact I'm retired now - I think I'd be sacked if I was to give my opinion on being asked to state my pronouns at work!

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 29/03/2024 13:59

Sparkleandshine231 · 29/03/2024 09:07

As I say,
only on Mumsnet!

People have gone to tribunal, and won, for the right to have and manifest gender critical beliefs without risking their jobs. A refusal to "give preferred pronouns", in other words a refusal to dictate the pronouns used by others to refer to you, is a manifestation of gender critical beliefs. Being coerced or compelled to "give preferred pronouns" is a failure to respect the rights of gender critical people to manifest their beliefs and a failure to respect our right not to manifest a belief that we don't agree with.

It's the equivalent of me, as an atheist, refusing to wear a crucifix pendant.

That this has gone to tribunal proves that this is by no means "only on Mumsnet".

MarkWithaC · 29/03/2024 14:05

I'm fascinated to hear what your badge says, given that they haven't asked you for input Hmm
I think I'd go for passive resistance like 'forgetting' my badge every day, taking it off for spurious reasons and 'forgetting' to put it back on again etc.

anyolddinosaur · 29/03/2024 14:19

Ask for it to be changed to nya/nyan (cat pronouns) if you dont mind being taken for a furry or he/him if you do. . Or go for Per/pers (short for person apparently and I suspect coined by someone taking the piss).

If asked about your gender reassignment just say you arent ready to talk about it and it is triggering to be asked.

moderate · 29/03/2024 15:46

Sparkleandshine231 · 29/03/2024 08:55

Stressed about a name badge?? Only on Mumsnet. I hope you never have to deal with anything genuinely stressful.

Yeah, imagine if people objected to wearing badges! Say for instance a yellow triangle overlapped by a pink triangle! What’s the big deal?!

drspouse · 29/03/2024 16:13

Add something irrelevant to the question but relevant to another protected characteristic eg "married", "Jewish", "straight" or "diabetic".

MagpiePi · 30/03/2024 10:16

My pronouns are The Most Magnificent Imperiatrix/The Empress of My Universe, so conversations in my office are like ‘MagpiePi needs to sign off that report, I’ll email The Empress of My Universe and see if The Most Magnificent Imperiatrix can get it done before lunch.’

Crankywiddershins · 30/03/2024 11:42

anyolddinosaur · 29/03/2024 14:19

Ask for it to be changed to nya/nyan (cat pronouns) if you dont mind being taken for a furry or he/him if you do. . Or go for Per/pers (short for person apparently and I suspect coined by someone taking the piss).

If asked about your gender reassignment just say you arent ready to talk about it and it is triggering to be asked.

There's a science fiction novel that uses "per/pers" pronouns. I want to say it's by Ursula Le Guin, but it's so long since I read it I can't remember it's name or author. I'm sure there's someone with a better memory than mine.

MagpiePi · 30/03/2024 11:52

@Crankywiddershins I know the book you mean, but can’t remember who wrote it. It was about a woman who was in a psychiatric unit but had episodes where she travelled to another world (another version of this world?) where everyone lived in gender neutral, egalitarian communities.

SoupDragonsFriend · 30/03/2024 11:53

Was it Marge Piercy's Woman on the Edge of Time?

Crankywiddershins · 30/03/2024 12:48

MagpiePi · 30/03/2024 11:52

@Crankywiddershins I know the book you mean, but can’t remember who wrote it. It was about a woman who was in a psychiatric unit but had episodes where she travelled to another world (another version of this world?) where everyone lived in gender neutral, egalitarian communities.

That's the one! And @SoupDragonsFriend has identified it.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 01/04/2024 00:29

I fancy a badge with

Honey B Popcorn
God/Almighty

yes. I’d like that. How could they argue ?

WarriorN · 01/04/2024 09:18

Sparkleandshine231 · 29/03/2024 09:57

This level of condescending behaviour is off the scale.

Bloody hell, is that really a post about minimising of women's concerns about the erasure of their rights on the feminist board?

Early stages of gilead I see.

Isthisexpected · 09/07/2024 17:08

I wanted to update. The name badge came but my name was actually spelt wrong so I haven't worn it!

Now being asked to work on a project looking at equality in relation to accessibility of our service, with a focus on gender and just waiting for a suggestion of whether adding pronouns to our service leaflet will help🙄

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User5641 · 09/07/2024 17:09

Waffleson · 27/03/2024 16:34

Can you just write back and say you prefer not to have your pronouns on the badge? With no explanation. If asked say "it's what I prefer".

100% agree with this.

Jaxhog · 09/07/2024 17:10

Waffleson · 27/03/2024 16:34

Can you just write back and say you prefer not to have your pronouns on the badge? With no explanation. If asked say "it's what I prefer".

This. (Or get the tippex out)

Jaxhog · 09/07/2024 17:12

Crankywiddershins · 30/03/2024 11:42

There's a science fiction novel that uses "per/pers" pronouns. I want to say it's by Ursula Le Guin, but it's so long since I read it I can't remember it's name or author. I'm sure there's someone with a better memory than mine.

She also wrote the 'Left hand of Darkness' which deals with gender. One of the best books I've ever read.

SerendipityJane · 09/07/2024 18:05

Now being asked to work on a project looking at equality in relation to accessibility of our service, with a focus on gender

So much easier than ramps, wider doorways, accessible toilets and large print/braille though ?

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