Name badge...it's happening

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Been told my new name badge with my pronouns on is coming next week. I haven't even been asked what my pronouns are... I don't intend to wear it because I don't hold the belief system it represents. But I now fear for my job/ stress levels are raised thinking about what's to come. Ignoring it is no longer an option...that has worked with email signatures....

What have you done?

Someone else got there before you? Just goes to prove that great minds think alike!

You do know that this is nonsense, don’t you? But you keep repeating it. Third person pronouns are the choice of the person using them, not the person being referred to. It is helpful if those pronouns are meaningful to the people who are listening, though not essential if the person speaking doesn’t care whether or not they’re understood. Third person pronouns are not anyone’s property.

OO, you might know this. I've always wondered, are the accidentally misgendered transwomen the same transwomen who are in women's toilets without anyone being able to tell?

I seen someone else somewhere putting hag/crone as their pronouns

I’d rather be ‘misgendered’ than wear a badge with gender ideology promoted on it

Not that it’s ever happened. So even more reason not to ever wear one.

Yes. Once again we see the minimising and maximising. It’s no big deal when it’s our issue but ITS A MASSIVE THING WE MUST ALL DO FOR THESE PEOPLE.

ask for adjectives instead..😂

Well not really.

Generally, I don't care what pronouns anyone uses.

But sometimes the fact that belief in gender ideology is becoming mandatory starts to feel very threatening. In which case I'd want to point out:

Logically, my pronouns can only be sex based if the person refering to me believes in sex, not gender.

If the person refering to me believes in gender ideology, when they refer to me as "she" they're ascribing me a woman gender ID which a) I don't have and b) I find offensive. So perhaps I'd rather gender ideology believers didn't use she/her for me.

Bit fucking complicated to fit on a badge though!

Why are pronouns more important than the other parts of speech? Why not nouns or verbs or any of the other ones?

Can I have the following adjective/nouns:

Adult; human; female?

Some top suggestions here. I hope you're making notes, OP.

If pronouns are added after your name then select "OBE/CBE".

Women are being compelled (and in the OP it's quite clear that this is the case) to highlight a protected characteristic they hold (two if you include gc views) leading to discrimination in the form of stereotype threat and similar.

I've added the usual links which you've seen before and choose to ignore but for the lurkers -

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/gender-inequality-man-woman-switch-names-week-martin-schneider-nicky-knacks-pay-gap-a7622201.html

hbr.org/2016/08/why-women-feel-more-stress-at-work

www.gov.uk/employment-appeal-tribunal-decisions/maya-forstater-v-cgd-europe-and-others-ukeat-slash-0105-slash-20-slash-joj

Exactly. The irony is a thing of beauty.

Pretty sure your management are being transphobic bigots by assuming what your pronouns are!

How do you know what my pronouns are?

As OPs managers haven't asked her/him/them which pronouns she/he/they uses, they might misgender her/him/them

It's useful information so that you can refer to people correctly in the third person and not accidentally misgender them.

Misgendering is such a recent concept. If there is a Sam working for your organisation, and you have never met Sam, you might say to someone else, "Oh, Sam is coming to the meeting next week, isn't he?" And then the other person can say, "Oh, actually, Sam is a 'she'." And you say, "Oh, OK." And everyone gets on with their lives, rather than having a hissy fit about someone being "misgendered".

Same if you have met someone in the flesh, surely. You assume "he", but someone tells you, "Sam uses 'she'." Why such drama over this? Unless it's because Sam expects to pass as a woman and doesn't like to be reminded that he doesn't.

And when you think of all the things that might actually be helpful on a badge worn at work, particularly customer facing. What languages someone speaks, whether they use or can understand BSL, if they've done dementia (or other) awareness training, if they're a first aider etc etc etc.

But no, how someone refers to you when you aren't in the same room is apparently vital enough to be compelled.

The whole thing's batshit.

I will NOT refer to a man as a 'she', nor refer to a woman as a 'he'. People can pretend to be whoever or whatever they like but they cannot expect others to go along with their fantasy.

There's absolutely no way I can look my daughter in the face and wear it but challenging it openly with senior management just isn't something I think I can do.

I'd like to go with hag but unbelievably wasn't even asked. Thanks for the links everyone.
And the humour. The irony of not even being asked. I mean it's funny but also terrifying isn't it! What a mess.

Get a sparkly sticker and put it over the pronouns. That's what I've seen done where people have not wanted their surname on display?

A rainbow or unicorn sticker would be awesome!

I told the person who asked that I was quite happy with just my name thank you.

But your pronouns could be job/stress

I think it's far more about making an overt signal of obeisance or allegiance to gender ideology.

Which can be useful. I find it very instructive if someone declares their pronouns.

Wearing a badge is obligatory at my workplace. There's an initiative to put the languages you speak on it, but it's voluntary. There's also an initiative to put your pronouns on it, again voluntary. I've never seen a colleague put their pronouns on their badge. Languages are more prevalent.

I agree, my description would be I/my.