Little OJ has left Labour!

[AdamRyan]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68622127

This is great news and shows Labour is going in the right direction imo. Bye bye L'OJ

I'm very surprised this was deemed newsworthy however 😂

Makes Labour more electable (just) in my view. And did you see him with his parade of ancesters "oh look at me I'm so working class me great gran was a Labour councillor me". Well ma nana had to bind her breasts and pregnancy bump (yes you heard right) so she wouldn't lose her factory job and get kicked out her flat as an unmarried mother! Hard as nails but she did it her and her sisters in the East End of Glasgow. She had f all! And now we have idiots like that wee nfaff going up to Scotland calling women names for protesting about young girls with mental health issues binding their breasts ! Grrr Talcum X ! The Greens are welcome to you!

Just noticed that Owen Jones has apologised for criticism that he has directed towards the Princess of Wales having become aware of her actual medical condition. Good man for that.

@JanesLittleGirl that was big of him. Somewhat after the horse has bolted.

He is a sad excuse of a man.

LOJ seems to be under the impression that core labour voters have heard of him.

His apology sums up his thoughtlessness

"As someone who speculated on this without considering it could be a serious health condition, I’m very ashamed to be honest, and all the very best to her"

I know who Owen Jones is but I don't understand his importance. Is he not just the opposite of Carole Malone?

OJ has no importance whatsoever. Just another gob on a stick spouting utterly predictable bollocks without anything as recherché as evidence or considered argument. He does however serve one useful purpose in that if you are every unsure what position to take on a given subject, the correct one will be whatever is diametrically opposed to jones, such is his unerring talent for getting everything wrong. A true shit seeking missile.

What an absolute dick he is. And he thinks that this somehow makes him the good guy? Wanker.

I hope that you are not being serious?

Absolutely.

See ya then Owen.

Except we won't.

Is he ashamed of hounding journalists out of The Guardian too?

Of course not! They are TERF bigots who asked for it.

Sounds like he was one of those tedious wankers who thought the initial long hospital stay was evidence of her being indulged and pampered and not about clinical need.

I'm not a monarchist but my gradual falling out with The Guardian began at the time when the foreign press published naked photographs of Kate Middleton, taken when she was on a secluded balcony, on private property, two miles from the nearest public road. From the tenor of some of the articles and most of the comments you could gather that the majority of Guardianistas either thought that sexual violation was a valid tactic in bringing a privileged woman down a peg or two or that if a woman, any woman, took her clothes off, even if she had every right to expect she was in private, then she had lost the right to complain if her naked body was splashed all over the internet. The misogyny was gleeful and yet, at the same time, any comment that wasn't pro-trans was deleted.

Of course it was mainly Jewish intellectuals who were the first proponents of Marxism and Communism ( of course Marx was Jewish himself) in Russia.

Communism was predicated on ideas of International Socialism whereby the nation state would dissolve to be replaced with an international order in which all shared in the principles of Communism. As you'll be aware Jewish people had everything to gain by the creation of such a society - in which the accusations levellled at them ( of disloyalty etc), and the hundreds of years of other anti semitic tropes would also dissolve and Jewish people could take their place as equals, with full citizenship.

It didn't really work out that way, though, did it - and Stalin if he hadn't died first had been hatching a plan to deport the Jews to far flung reaches of Russia. The Jews were never to be forgiven, by the Left, for prioritising their Jewishness and their Jewish identity over a dedication to International Socialism. Zionism represented a rejection of the vision and was seen as a betrayal of communist principles.

It has been said that some Left wing Jewish people, such as Alexei Sayle - who was brought up by Communist parents in Liverpool ( they would holiday in the eastern bloc during the Cold War and were active in Communist politics) still prioritise their political commitment to International Socialism over their Jewish identity - and is why they tend to frame their Jewish identity in terms of being opposed to Zionism ( the 'good' Jews). It must be a tough challenge to reconcile - and often involves being opposed or hostile to the rest of the Jewish community - including friends and family members. most Jewish people are Zionists at heart - and the recent rise in anti semitic attacks in Britain and elsewhere reveal exactly why Zionism became a thing in the first place.

Why are Jewisih people living in countries other than Israel being attacked in the streets, and on university campuses, and having to have police outside of synagogues on a Saturday - if Israel has got nothing to do with Jewish people?

Why do left wing students have to declare that they are anti zionists to be acceptable in left wing circles?

He's just arse covering with that apology. His whole schtick is predicated on a being a good and moral person. Being nasty about people with cancer doesn't look good.

Precisely. The gleeful sniping about a woman IN HOSPITAL HAVING SURGERY without ever considering that she might have something seriously wrong with her is the true measure of the man.

A spiteful, snivelling, misogynist shitweasel. Can try to cover his arse now if he likes but it changes nothing. I could not despise him more.

BackToLurk · Yesterday 13:09

Your regular reminder that there was a ceasefire in place on 6th October.

Well, if by "ceasefire" you mean daily shelling and regular air raids on Gaza, then I suppose you're right.

Well don't forget the constant firing on Israel by Hamas now will you?

In today’s Times. The comments are not in Jones’ favour…

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/owen-jones-was-a-once-bold-thinker-warped-by-social-media

Paywall version: https://archive.ph/z1ocJ

I didn’t realise he was still in Labour, I thought he went down with the good (bad) ship Corbyn

He was 'Momentum' Labour. All of the new young recruits that came with Corbyn formed a party within the party. At conference they would hold an entirely separate event in another venue at some distance from the conference hall - and would have nothing to do with the main event.

All of the obvious would be at these 'World Transformed' events - journalists such as Paul Mason, OJ, Ash Sarkar, Corbyn himself

I’ve read his book, “This Land”, an insider account of the Corbyn years, and it’s a good read, well-written. Sympathetic of course but not a hagiography - he says that Corbyn was indecisive and made loads of mistakes. He just existed in his own little world prattling on about Cuba and Venezuela.

His chapter on anti-Semitism though - oh dear. Could not bring himself to admit this was a serious problem, it was a just a right-wing smear etc.

Good that the likes of him have left Labour. There are some people you just don’t want to associate with.

Interesting. I agree regarding twitter. I don't think the Internet has been a good invention from that perspective.