No more puberty blockers for children from the NHS - reported in the Times!

[MrsOvertonsWindow]

This is massive - and long overdue

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/97ce2e81-2884-42f5-bb82-2a2778f2cc91?shareToken=9568e79f0683beea68ffe5e978b05a29

wtf dangerous people

She also doesn't understand the meaning of "fortuitous", which she clearly thinks is a synonym for "fortunate".

These people should be behind bars, not being given £80k payouts!

The Guardian carried an interview today with the surgeon who was struck off the medical register for branding his initials on a patient's liver.

Now, I can see that branding your initials on someone's liver isn't a great thing to do, but the guy was a highly skilled and specialist surgeon who had saved many people's lives. I can't see why someone like that gets struck off, while clinicians who have actually caused patients harm - not by accident, but by intent - are given £80k and a pat on the back.

Good callout. I should have said 'used for men to be castrated' rather than 'designed for'

Tbf I expect the reason it’s used for hormone sensitive cancers in males is to reduce testosterone to castrate level in a less invasive/traumatic/permanent manner than the alternative which would be surgical castration.

Which is the exact same rationale for administering it to sex offenders.

Same drugs, same mechanism (tells the brain to switch the gonads off), same desired outcome (chemical castratio) but treating two completely different things (sex offending behaviours or hormone sensitive cancer).

Whereas when it’s administered to children for gender reasons it’s supposedly to give them time and space to think, a pause on physical development until they are mature enough to make a decision about cross sex hormones…

and anyone who says ‘hold on a minute, how does chemical castration of tweens help them become mature enough to make life changing decisions when the licensed use of the same drug in the younger paediatric population is precisely to prevent a precocious puberty child from maturing by chemically castrating them until they reach an appropriate age for puberty, at which point the use of the drug is withdrawn and then maturation takes place?’ is derided as a trans hating bigot.

Did people really believe it was possible to pause one aspect of puberty (secondary sex characteristics) without also interrupting the myriad of other changes that take place during puberty, eg rapid increase in bone density and the brain development crucial for adult levels of impulse control, critical thinking and long term forward planning? Or were they just completely tunnel visioned, blinded to the long-known facts of child development by their desire to make adults who could ‘pass’ as the opposite sex?

From the extract upthread, she doesn't seem to have any idea what sex actually is. She's postmodernised herself into wilful ignorance.

Maybe Australia will have to wake up to all this - they can’t say they haven’t been informed.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/nhs-decision-to-ban-puberty-blockers-for-children-stirs-up-debate/news-story/f4bf2f40d4930862e94ee027147d679e

Very good post. This looks like a medical scandal to me given the harm allowed

Exactly.

I would be interested in the data from post-marketing and post-treatment surveillance for use in precocious puberty. There are plenty of anecdotes out there suggesting significant harms, but delayed for years after cessation.

But I doubt this data is even being gathered. I think a follow-up study would have to be done, because I doubt anything would be evident from Yellow Card reports, if the effects are not seen during the treatment itself.

This ought to be part of the investigation into using puberty blockers for whatever reason.

“First, do no harm” my arse.

From when I read around on it a couple of years ago I got the impression that (in the U.K. at least) the number of otherwise healthy with idiopathic precocious puberty at such an early age to justify intervention is small and that many of children who develop pubertal symptoms early experience it as a side effect of something very serious (eg brain tumour or profound, rare, genetic disabilities) and obvs in situations like that the children will have multiple symptoms and a myriad of prescriptions for drugs with a variety of side effects, so it’s difficult to unpack what causes what.

And of course, children with a tragically shortened life expectancy will be prescribed powerful drugs with less caution than the general paediatric populace (eg chemo drug trials for children who have failed to respond to existing medications) but gender dysphoric children do not have life threatening conditions or shortened life expectancy (presumably why their suicide risk has been exaggerated to the point of outright lies).

My DD’s oncologist told me that GnRHa can sometimes be used off label for girls who are on the cusp of puberty for the duration of short chemo interventions, with the aim
of shutting down her ovaries to sort of mothball her eggs in situ (not relevant to my DD who was still at infant school and had ovarian cryopreservation instead).

It’s wild to me that in adults, the NHS fertility preservation offer for those with gender dysphoria is officially equal to those about to undergo cancer treatment whereas GIDs natal girls were not treated equally with Oncology girls (specifically talking about early pubertal girls who are too young to attempt IVF style fertility preservation, which would be horribly invasive for a very uncertain result).

A bunch of new articles:
SUE REID: Private clinics must be banned from giving puberty blockers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13205577/SUE-REID-NHS-private-clinics-puberty-blockers.html

How I took on the puberty blocker orthodoxy – and won

I was lucky to have been given the freedom to conduct my research, given the tendency to shut down heretical projects MICHAEL BIGGS
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/17/how-i-took-on-the-puberty-blocker-orthodoxy-and-won/

The SNP must stop prescription of puberty blockers to children instead of pandering to the Greens
After the harmful medication was banned for under-18s in England, Scottish Conservative deputy leader MEGHAN GALLACHER questions whether the Scottish Government will finally do the right thing?
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/comment/snp-must-stop-prescription-puberty-32366926

Thank you. Good to see that Michael Biggs article in the Telegraph. He's been a tireless advocate and his research has shown up transactivism for the dangerous to children ideology it is.

Free Speech Nation talking about it again tonight

Ooh, is Dennis Kavanagh on? I seem to recall he had a planned appearance coming up.

Brendan O'Neill has written about this in the Spectator

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-was-the-puberty-blocking-scandal-ever-allowed-to-happen/

It's good he's given a shout out to Roisin Murphy (amongst others), who's concerns have been entirely vindicated and who was treated shamefully for voicing them.

I worry he's being a little premature, we've not won yet. There are still battles to fight, possibly on fronts that are currently unforseen.

He drags it round to one of his own hobby horses, free speech. Which I agree is important. If it's a bit of a crowbar, I don't have a problem with that.

Why can this loophole that allows Gender GP to continue not be closed?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/da0f8e48-a241-4baf-9224-a77b02c580b6?shareToken=6394bca69fe09e12944763f3b92461ee

It would be closed if the Tories passed Truss's Bill...

Very creepy:

Among those who have given money to the fund is an anonymous American donor who gave $25,000 (£20,000) as part of a joint donation with a British YouTuber whom he paid to be his online “sugar baby”, The Times can reveal.
The donor, who goes by the pseudonym Tenmuses, gave F1nn5ter, a YouTuber from Birmingham with over half a million subscribers, thousands of pounds to undergo laser hair removal, wear an outfit with the words “Daddy’s princess” written on it and sit in a child’s chair when he disobeyed his commands.
Tenmuses also offered him money to strip on camera and undergo breast implant surgery, both of which he declined.

More and more damning articles on Gender GP and the loophole. Pressure is building. There are mechanisms the Tories/medical authorities could use right now to stop puberty blockers even without passing the bill. Will they act or not?

When science is opinion....

Anyone else get the feeling the times has a huge stack of articles that will come out over the coming months.

And they had a meeting where they sat down and worked out who was covering what and when.

And I bet in conjunction with gov.

F1NN5TER has a thread on the fruit farms if anyone want to read more about that situation.

I've seen nothing in the Times on the WPATH leaks, barring an aside in Janice Turner's column. I hope they're keeping their powder dry for a big exposé.

Oh yes.

Stuff being saved for when the Cass Review comes out.

🎯 Red.

Fingers crossed the Charities Commission will publish their findings on Mermaids soon. It’s all part of the same bigger picture.