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No more puberty blockers for children from the NHS - reported in the Times!

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/03/2024 16:21

This is massive - and long overdue

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/97ce2e81-2884-42f5-bb82-2a2778f2cc91?shareToken=9568e79f0683beea68ffe5e978b05a29

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RebelliousCow · 12/03/2024 20:14

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 16:41

How odd the BBC hasn't reported when every other news outlet has.

Too busy giving one sided presentations on the conflict in Gaza.

Rainynight09 · 12/03/2024 20:16

Hallelujah

Froodwithatowel · 12/03/2024 20:16

Thank you for sharing that, really helpful. If this is the NHS line, then private providers are putting themselves right out on a limb.

fromorbit · 12/03/2024 20:18

ITV News
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-03-12/children-will-not-be-prescribed-puberty-blockers-nhs-says

Meanwhile the Fox Botherer has come out with an awful take. Though of course considering the huge amount of money he has made from grifting from TRAs he needs to keep it going. Countdown to him launching a crowdfunder to take NHS to court for a case he will lose but get paid for begins here.

No more puberty blockers for children from the NHS - reported in the Times!
MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/03/2024 20:23

fromorbit · 12/03/2024 20:18

ITV News
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-03-12/children-will-not-be-prescribed-puberty-blockers-nhs-says

Meanwhile the Fox Botherer has come out with an awful take. Though of course considering the huge amount of money he has made from grifting from TRAs he needs to keep it going. Countdown to him launching a crowdfunder to take NHS to court for a case he will lose but get paid for begins here.

Isn't he grim? Imagine ignoring the serial sterilisation of children and experimenting on them like that.
Some men really show themselves for who they really are don't they.

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CriticalCondition · 12/03/2024 20:31

Bloody hell. That tweet from the fox killer. I know I shouldn't be surprised but even so.

Pudmyboy · 12/03/2024 20:35

Hurrah!

CriticalCondition · 12/03/2024 20:41

Well I had a look down the corridor, behind the door marked 'leopard' and finally found this in the BBC's Health section

  • NHS England to stop prescribing puberty blockers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68549091
A picture of the Tavistock's sign

NHS England to stop prescribing puberty blockers

It comes after a review found there was "not enough evidence" the drugs are safe or effective.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68549091

WarriorN · 12/03/2024 20:43

Well done, like a needle in a haystack

The BBC understands NHS England aims to begin its study into the use of puberty blockers by December 2024, and is yet to decide who can take part.

fromorbit · 12/03/2024 20:44

CriticalCondition · 12/03/2024 20:31

Bloody hell. That tweet from the fox killer. I know I shouldn't be surprised but even so.

Only positive to be said is like Windy he is one of the biggest helpers for our side there is.

WarriorN · 12/03/2024 20:45

JK really shining the sunlight tonight; excellent David Bell channel 4 interview from 3 years ago.

WarriorN · 12/03/2024 20:46

x.com/jk_rowling/status/1767641731397214517?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

And she's rt James Esse pointing out he was expelled from his masters for saying all this.

WarriorN · 12/03/2024 20:51

Twitter space run by the guy behind the org that released the WPATH files is entitled as "Historic" - massive impact around the world. x.com/shellenberger/status/1767649039754133538?s=46

I've also just seen a tweet saying "is the nhs right wing now?" 😂

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 20:52

CriticalCondition · 12/03/2024 20:41

Well I had a look down the corridor, behind the door marked 'leopard' and finally found this in the BBC's Health section

  • NHS England to stop prescribing puberty blockers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68549091

Well done, Josh!

ferretface · 12/03/2024 20:57

To be fair the BBC article appeared on the front page of their website for me!

Great news.

DuesToTheDirt · 12/03/2024 20:57

CriticalCondition · 12/03/2024 20:02

So this story broke almost 4 hours ago and has been headline news on BBC radio since then. But absolutely zilch on the news website. What the hell is going on? They seem to think a story about a cat falling in a vat in Japan is worthy of space FFS.

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I saw the cat story, before I started looking at Mumsnet threads, and thought WTF? Why do we need to know that? Confused

ErrolTheDragon · 12/03/2024 20:59

ferretface · 12/03/2024 20:57

To be fair the BBC article appeared on the front page of their website for me!

Great news.

Yes, it does for me now but they were a bit tardy putting the piece up - it wasn't there at about 7pm.

CriticalCondition · 12/03/2024 21:01

ferretface · 12/03/2024 20:57

To be fair the BBC article appeared on the front page of their website for me!

Great news.

It's on my front page now but I suspect only because the algorithm knows I went and read it.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/03/2024 21:01

It's possible the delay on the bbc was getting it tolerably impartial?

DuesToTheDirt · 12/03/2024 21:02

ferretface · 12/03/2024 20:57

To be fair the BBC article appeared on the front page of their website for me!

Great news.

Ah yes, now on the front page (saying the story is 35 minutes old, though that could be the update time rather than the time of the original story).

CriticalCondition · 12/03/2024 21:04

ErrolTheDragon · 12/03/2024 21:01

It's possible the delay on the bbc was getting it tolerably impartial?

That would be the kind interpretation. I'm not feeling especially generous towards the BBC given they've basically told me to sod off with my complaints over the last couple of weeks but I can hope I suppose.

Froodwithatowel · 12/03/2024 21:05

"is the nhs right wing now?" 😂

It'll definitely be old and saggy titted.

WarriorN · 12/03/2024 21:05

Why isn't this under health though? It's a medical scandal.

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2024 21:06

'Gender incongruence / gender dysphoria can become more distressing in adolescence due to the pubertal development of secondary sex characteristics and increasing social divisions between genders. Some studies have found that young people with gender incongruence / gender dysphoria may present to gender identity development services with a range of associated difficulties (e.g. bullying, low mood / depression and self-harm and suicidality).

PSH competitively block puberty hormone receptors to prevent the spontaneous release of two puberty inducing hormones, Follicular Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Luteinising Hormone (LH) from the pituitary gland. This arrests the progress of puberty, delaying the development of secondary sexual characteristics. In England, the puberty suppressor triptorelin (a synthetic decapeptide analogue of a natural puberty hormone, which has marketing authorisations for the treatment of prostate cancer, endometriosis and central precocious puberty) is one of the puberty suppressing hormones used for this purpose. The use of triptorelin for children and adolescents with gender incongruence is off-label.

In January 2020, a Policy Working Group (PWG) was established by NHS England to undertake a review of the published evidence. As part of this process, the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) was commissioned to review the published evidence on Gonadotrophin Releasing Hormone Analogues (GnRHa). Nine observational studies were included in the evidence review (NICE 2020). Overall, there was no statistically significant difference in gender dysphoria, mental health, body image and psychosocial functioning in children and adolescents treated with GnRHa (2020). The quality of evidence for all these outcomes was assessed as very low certainty using modified GRADE. There remains limited short-term and long-term safety data for GnRHa. GnRHa may reduce the expected increase in lumbar or femoral bone density during puberty. A re-run of the search was undertaken by NHS England in April 2023 to capture literature published after the NICE evidence review in 2020. Nine further studies were identified.'

From the NHS England doc.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/clinical-policy-puberty-suppressing-hormones/

NHS England » Clinical Policy: Puberty suppressing hormones

https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/clinical-policy-puberty-suppressing-hormones

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