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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Hollyoaks - well this is creepy!

444 replies

Imnobody4 · 07/03/2024 12:25

This is an important conversation to have #Hollyoaks

https://twitter.com/Flashmaggie/status/1765511265076613611?t=DMjXSrOUX7zq5tzRgsRGEA&s=19

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 15:45

Peskysquirrel · 07/03/2024 15:30

@ForCoralFox once again I am stunned that you said you once worked with at-risk children, when you come out with comments like that

  • am stunned
  • disbelieve
ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 15:45

I've just rewatched the clip. She put her hands on his shoulders, and insisted he should tell his parents. Neither handsy nor encouraging secrets.

Peskysquirrel · 07/03/2024 15:46

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 15:41

This is not a professional context. From what I read, this person is a family friend. Family and friends are still allowed to show affection to children I believe.

What else are 12 year olds compelled to tell their parents? Their sexuality? Their crushes? All their friendship issues? The content of their dreams, like in The Giver?

Yes, I know this isn't a professional context. That's not the point.
The point is: anyone who has worked with at-risk kids in any capacity should know at least the basics of safeguarding in any context, formal or informal.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 15:46

That was meant to be a minus sign, not a bullet point.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 15:48

Leaving aside the misgendering

There is no "misgendering". Just correct sexing. No pronouns were used, and I always refer to people's sex, because "gender" is meaningless.

StephanieSuperpowers · 07/03/2024 15:49

Rainbowshit · 07/03/2024 15:42

That is astonishing. A decidedly creepy adult male getting very handsy with a female child in a darkened room, while encouraging her to keep secrets from her parents.

How can anyone see that as anything other than grooming?

Don't forget, it's a distressed girl with a man dressed as Raquel from Corrie hovering behind her and putting his hands on her shoulders.

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 15:52

Peskysquirrel · 07/03/2024 15:46

Yes, I know this isn't a professional context. That's not the point.
The point is: anyone who has worked with at-risk kids in any capacity should know at least the basics of safeguarding in any context, formal or informal.

I've never had safeguarding training that would suggest that what happened in that clip was a red flag. The physical contact was limited to a brief supportive hand on shoulder. There was nothing at all sexual about it.

She was not making secret plans with the child, but providing support in a moment of distress.

Children that age, and teenagers, often find it easier to confide in wider family and friendship networks than in their parents. That's normal.

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2024 15:53

It's odd how one poster has such a diametrically opposite view to all the other posters on this thread. I wonder what makes the difference.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 15:53

Then you haven't had very good safeguarding training.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 15:54

And that's why parents need to know exactly who their children are talking to online and at school etc.

StephanieSuperpowers · 07/03/2024 15:55

And just who infiltrates your family circle to gain trust.

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 15:55

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 15:54

And that's why parents need to know exactly who their children are talking to online and at school etc.

But the parents do know this person. She works for them.

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 15:57

This is such a twisted take on what is happening in this clip.

Peskysquirrel · 07/03/2024 15:58

People have opinions and perceive things in different ways – what a shocker

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:01

I actually feel sorry for you all. From browsing this forum you all seem constantly distressed by perfectly normal everyday interactions, are permanently afraid and see everything as sinister. It must be an exhausting way to live.

Beowulfa · 07/03/2024 16:02

I don't remember ever being alone in a room with a male "family friend" as a child/teen. I just can't imagine how such a situation arises.

Peskysquirrel · 07/03/2024 16:04

From browsing this forum you all seem constantly distressed by perfectly normal everyday interactions NOPE
are permanently afraid NOPE
and see everything as sinister NOPE
It must be an exhausting way to live NOPE

So no need to feel sorry for me, thanks

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:06

Beowulfa · 07/03/2024 16:02

I don't remember ever being alone in a room with a male "family friend" as a child/teen. I just can't imagine how such a situation arises.

I don't remember specifically but I think it must have happened regularly. This is a normal part of life. Are you really saying no man except a parent should ever be alone with a child?

Rainbowshit · 07/03/2024 16:06

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:01

I actually feel sorry for you all. From browsing this forum you all seem constantly distressed by perfectly normal everyday interactions, are permanently afraid and see everything as sinister. It must be an exhausting way to live.

An adult male encouraging a young girl to present as a boy on a path that leads to sterilisation is NOT a normal interaction FFS.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:07

Don't waste your sympathy on me, @ForCoralFox I've got plenty enough to spare for you.

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2024 16:07

Encouraging a distressed child to believe that their body is 'wrong' is abhorrent.

Rainbowshit · 07/03/2024 16:08

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 15:57

This is such a twisted take on what is happening in this clip.

Why don't you read all the comments under the clip on Twitter. You're the one out of step with what most people see.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:08

These people get a kick out of gaslighting that their mad views and poor boundaries are shared by everyone.

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:09

Rainbowshit · 07/03/2024 16:08

Why don't you read all the comments under the clip on Twitter. You're the one out of step with what most people see.

That's clearly a coordinated response.

ForCoralFox · 07/03/2024 16:10

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/03/2024 16:08

These people get a kick out of gaslighting that their mad views and poor boundaries are shared by everyone.

Do you honestly think it's a mainstream view that a known adult placing their hands briefly on a child's shoulder is deviant?