WPATH leaks

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There are a number of articles appearing on Twitter about some leaked files from WPATH. The impending scandal is taking far too long to break, but there are more and more signs that journalists are no longer ignoring the situation.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/leaked-wpath-files-show-gender-clinician-abuses/

If you'll forgive a brief diversion: on that main topic on the Janice Turner piece, it so happens I'm watching a snooker tournament right now in Saudi Arabia, the first one there, apparently. Of course, the whole TV programme is a massive piece of PR for the Saudi state, with all the top players doing a talking head turn to say what a wonderful country it is, and how excited they are to open snooker up to new markets, etc etc. It seems this is just a dry run, and there'll be a 'ranking' tournament there from next year. I suppose like most of these sportsmen, they can't have too much money. But it's depressing, and I feel a bit dirty watching it.

Crikey, Janice Turner went there. With the whole pornographic, fetishistic eunuch, pedo shitshow.

Disappointed as I was with the bloody pronoun farrago a few weeks ago, you've got to hand it to the woman.

Now JKR has tweeted about the WPATH files will the BBC and the guardian still ignore it?

Glad reduxx has got a mention; shame Gluck still isn't being cited for her investigations into the eunuch stuff.

What that woman has done will be one of the most significant findings in terms of how WPATH have planned organisation and collaboration with fetishists

Went off to read JKRs tweet on WPATH and 👀......

Here comes the Willoughby wars 🍿

That's a good point.

WPATH may not be a body with the peer review type org that other well regarding and recognised "official" medical associations are, but they've got reps absolutely everywhere in those orgs.

And non medical people from lobby groups and charities are members of WPATH. Eg SG.

The whole thing has had foundations of sand but they've been blagging official status and recognition/ scientific status by networking. Many echoes with the painkiller scandal.

Rainbowshit · Yesterday 23:03

Now JKR has tweeted about the WPATH files will the BBC and the guardian still ignore it?

Of course they will, unless they go on a rant about how transphobic it all is.

Is it possible for someone to post a screenshot of this tweet for those of us not on Xitter?

This one?

Thanks so much! 💐

I find it faintly bemusing that anyone is still trying to deny the experimental nature of sterilising children for gender affirmation. It's all laid pretty bare on camera in the Jazz Jennings documentary including the parents' extreme discomfort, caught on camera, once they realise how experimental it all is.

I suppose it shows how brainwashed everyone is that there is no attempt to cover this up at all, rather they're televising it. I just can't think of any other case where operating on a child's healthy body in such an experimental way with no evidence that benefits exist (let alone outweigh risks) where it wouldn't immediately cause government committees and inquiries and 'lessons being learned'. It's just staggering.

Hiding in plain sight. It doesn't affect most people directly and other people only see what they want to see.

The leak report gives four other examples of this kind of medical scandal, though not involving children. In some ways that makes it harder to see - because we can't believe doctors and other caring professionals would really choose to do anything so dangerous to children.

Presumably facing the grim reality that you've been celebrating medically experimenting on children / young people too young to consent to a range of medication, surgery and social grooming leaving them infertile, with limited sexual function and medical patients for life is too awful to contemplate.
Not one of the organisations currently tiptoeing over that golden bridge has had the integrity to acknowledge how the young have been failed.
They'll issue profound apologies after the court cases such is their hypocrisy.

A detransitioner posted on reddit last night that their doctor was apparently involved in the 'just enjoy the ride' conversation. They were horrified at the exchange and the complete lack of empathy. They also pointed out that if the doctor was declaring that they had not been told of the regret of the patients, then their staff needed to be fired. I read that as being because the messages from patients were not getting to that doctor about the regret. I surmise that this detransitioner had been in touch and that either this doctor was not told or was lying.

It is such a fucking mess.

I wonder if we'll end up seeing children suing their parents for allowing their medical care to be directed and conducted by such obvious charlatans?

Great post. You can help write to a news source and ask them why they are not covering the WPATH scandal today:

Andrew Doyle
The WPATH Files have exposed one of the major medical scandals of our time.

So here’s a list of the mainstream media outlets who have yet to cover it...

Broadcasters:
@BBCNews

@itvnews

@Channel4News

@5_News

@SkyNews

National papers:
@guardian
@thetimes

@Independent

@Daily_Express

@TheSun

@DailyMirror

London:
@EveningStandard

@MetroUK

Regional:
@MENnewsdesk

@ExpressandStar

@ChronicleLive

@LivEchonews
(and all the others!)

Scotland:
@heraldscotland

@TheScotsman

@thecourieruk

@pressjournal

Wales and NI:
@HeraldWales
@WalesOnline

@BelTel
^^

Even if journalists don’t approve of the findings of the WPATH Files, they surely have a responsibility not to pretend it hasn’t happened!

I sincerely hope so.

It will empower other parents to stand up to the immense pressure put on them, and legal accountability and the fear of heavy pay outs is the only thing likely to slow conscience-free bastards from grifting.

Plus, in the US it will almost certainly end up with insurance companies suing each other - and I can't see a faster way for them to stop offering this sort of "medical treatment".

Ahem. This is still MumsNet right? Being threatened with legal action by your children does not empower a parent to do anything. And seeing other parents threatened in that way only undermines what parental authority we have.

At a recent Genspect conference the detransitioners gave a shout-out to all the parents doing their best to support their kids.

Parents still have the right to expect professionals to give honest reliable advice and to be very clear about the limits of their own knowledge and competence. That's what it means to be a professional and WPATH has "P" right there in its name. If a health professional doesn't know if a treatment is safe or effective we have the right to expect them to say so. The report talks about the "chain of trust" that we all rely on and the way that WPATH has broken that chain.

Agree @AmaryllisNightAndDay - but in the US where medical treatment is funded by insurance companies, and parents have been (often) pressured with legal threats into supporting treatment, it will only be when insurance companies start losing money that there will be a hard halt.

I agree though that whilst there are some attention-seeking idiots who would trans their kids Into God-knows-what if it brought them a bit of publicity, that the vast majority are just worried sick about their children, have been wrongly told that their child will take their own life if they aren't supported, and who reluctantly lend their support out of love.

I'm now wondering whether it's absolutely no coincidence that J. K. Rowling is addressing Wpath, and Willoughby, in the same breath.

If she is the pivot around which the story will unfold, then the Wpath findings, and the Willoughby tantrum will be reported at the same time.

From a readers point of view, they are both going to be on the same side of the debate.

It will be interesting to see if Willoughby has an opinion about WPath. To disassociate, or to endorse?

Brilliant to see Janice acknowledge Reduxx. They have done fantastic work on this - the kind of work that journalists on the nationals should have been doing, but haven't. I hope one day when all this is over Reduxx, and Genevieve Gluck in particular, are recognised for their unstinting hard work and courage in exposing the evil of this ideology.

I'm now wondering whether it's absolutely no coincidence that J. K. Rowling is addressing Wpath, and Willoughby, in the same breath.

I'm sure it isn't.

News media of all types are ignoring the WPATH finding - this way she can push it into the light.

Eliza Mondegreen has written about it in Unherd

https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-wpath-files-fallout-is-just-the-beginning/

The way the medical people talk of overcoming their reservations 😲 I believe that's how they live with themselves, group think, and why we're evil, nazi, bigots. Because if we aren't, then what does that make them?

I think Terry Pratchett had inna book about the mugs of torturers. Tells you all you need to know about the banality of evil. I've not seen it but I suspect the film 'The Zone of Interest' will be more of the same.

And Malcolm Clarke in the Critic, it's quite a ride (dolphin wanks)

https://thecritic.co.uk/all-roads-lead-to-wpath/

I wish he'd linked the studies he references on the apparent increase in suicide after gender affirming care.