WPATH leaks

[PriOn1]

There are a number of articles appearing on Twitter about some leaked files from WPATH. The impending scandal is taking far too long to break, but there are more and more signs that journalists are no longer ignoring the situation.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/leaked-wpath-files-show-gender-clinician-abuses/

Bloody Hell!! That X thread makes for shocking reading!
They had alters who were both male and female gender and it was imperative to get all alters who would be effected by [Hormone Replacement Therapy] to be aware and consent to the changes
The above quote is absolutely bonkers! - clinicians know someone is schizophrenic, and is going along with their schizophrenia by asking all the clients alters for consent. The irony of medical professionals going along with a serious delusion in order to play God and perform irreversible medical procedures defies belief. These monsters should be struck off.

Placemarking. Just found out and have a meeting .

Youngsters appear to have 'alters', from a process of social contagion.

Is that even considered authentic schizophrenia?

And how the bloody hell do they know they have the consent of every 'alter' What if there's one who's secretive?

I mean, the whole fucking concept is absolutely nonsensical. Cut the genitalia off a kid who thinks they're schizophrenic, because they also think they're the opposite sex.

American Medical Association, The Endocrine Society, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and thousands of doctors worldwide rely on WPATH. It is considered the leading global authority on gender medicine.

How is it?

Susie Green helped write their guidelines. They promoted a pornographic eunuch site.

The whole disgusting snake oil selling shit show can't collapse soon enough.

i can’t see anything new here, Reduxx found it and reported it over the last few years . Is the excitement because Shellenberger has a big platform and CryMiaRiver got the videos recorded?

im pleased it’s done, WPATH has influence that it shouldn’t. But I wonder if I’m missing something

How many paediatric gender clinics are there in America? 300 or more-harming children-they should ALL be closed down

The excitement is because it’s big news on Twitter and it now looks like breaking in the mainstream press. I haven’t seen what was reported on Reduxx and can’t comment on whether there is any new material here or if it’s just that it’s been brought together by someone with a platform, but it is what it is. Sorry to anyone who feels their story hasn’t been told, but unfortunately I think this is often how journalism works.

@stealtheatingtunnocks I agree, it seems familiar. The 'doctor' who has only refused to write one letter because the patient was actively in psychosis and hallucinating (and seemed to regret that!), I've read that before.

They do say they've had this information for a little while because they were taking the time to properly go through it and release a full report. Perhaps others thought it was too urgent for that and got the information out immediately. I can see the reasoning either way.

I hope this time it gets some traction. I've not seen in on the Times website yet. I expect the DM will publish it. I'm not hopeful about the Guardian, ignored unless the story becomes too big then a lowkey, straight report buried on the site. Ditto the BBC.

In the last 15 years, I had to regrettably decline writing only one letter, mainly b/c the person evaluated was in active psychosis and hallucinated during the assessment session...”

“They had alters who were both male and female gender and it was imperative to get all alters who would be effected by [Hormone Replacement Therapy] to be aware and consent to the changes."

Agree. This was horrifying in how the speaker is so incredibly obtuse. So spectacularly missing the point. Let alone conceiving DID as something materially real. And that this is a person responsible for treating vulnerable patients. Though when I worked in psychiatry, the field was rife (NACALT!) with unpleasant clinicians, consciously or unconsciously, attracted to the power dynamics of working with very vulnerable clients always in positions of subordination relative to the all knowing and all seeing clinician.

That TwitterX thread is utterly jaw-dropping. These people are beyond belief.

I see that bit of the report has shocked many.

Maybe the excitement is releasing it as one report. Rather in pieces. Releasing it in full, and with context and commentary will hopefully be adding to the already great work done by Reduxx.

Is that even considered authentic schizophrenia?

No. Dissociative identity disorder is a totally different condition from schizophrenia, and unlike the latter it's a contested diagnosis. There has been fairly convincing evidence that in at least some cases it's a social contagion issue rather than an illness in its own right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13156695/Trans-healthcare-doctors-exposed-admitting-patients-young-mentally-ill-understand-consequences-treatment.html

More MM reporting.

The Economist article archived link;

web.archive.org/web/20240305035528/www.economist.com/united-states/2024/03/05/leaked-discussions-reveal-uncertainty-about-transgender-care

PrIon

I have heard it said that consent/negligence cases in the US are going to be very difficult because those carrying out these treatments were following WPATH guidelines and WPATH were considered to be offering the gold standard of care. I think this needs a really deep dive into how that happened as well as this current expose of the clinicians themselves.

I wonder if the claimants could add WPATH or some of their officers/representatives as respondents?

“In the last 15 years, I had to regrettably decline writing only one letter, mainly because the person evaluated was in active psychosis and hallucinated during the assessment session.

What the actual ??? I hope they go after this person and make their life hell, they are so dismissive and uncaring they shouldn't be near another patient (of any kind) ever again. It's almost as though they have their own mh problems...

Isn't the difference that the "doubts" and lack of evidence for treatment are coming directly from WPATH itself, not from others?

It's one thing for other people to point out that the treatments are potentially doing long-term harm but another entirely for those recommending it to admit that they are and to do it anyway.

I feel you’re as angry as I am!!

Just watched this video and they all fucking LAUGH when the therapist says “I would go in, and say, ‘Okay, so tell me what you learned.’ They would be like, ‘We have no idea what they were talking about.’ Fucking hilarious.

They didn't laugh quite so much at “And so I think the more we can normalize that it is okay to not get this right away, that it is okay to have questions, is, you know, the more we're going to actually do a real informed consent process than what I think has been currently happening and that I think is, frankly, not what we need to be doing ethically.”

Michael Shellenberger on X: "“What has been currently happening is, frankly, not what we need to be doing, ethically.” As we saw above, many WPATH members waive away the evidence of medical mistreatment. But others appear genuinely concerned by the lack of informed consent. A therapist describes talking… t.co/bn1VfmOnLG" / X (twitter.com)

The FAQ page on WPATHs website is enlightening to say the least.
https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Documents/SOC%20v8/SOC-8%20FAQs%20-%20WEBSITE2.pdf

Simon Edge has been trying to tell Lloyd Russell Moyle that his bill is effectively an attempt to force medical practitioners into this treatment that they all know is unethical and often barbaric, Russell Moyle responds that his bill has nothing to do with this.

Sometimes I just genuinely don't know whether people like LRM are so disingenuous that they will tell you black is white and keep a straight face or whether they're just incredibly, astonishingly stupid.

This article from this source will probably reach people who never think about this topic, or are vaguely #bekind, or assume that something called "World Professional Association for Transgender Health" must be right, right?
This paragraph illustrates that no matter how hard The Economist works at staying neutral, they can't help but reveal the seriousness of what's going on in 'gender-affirming care':

The non-profit group that obtained and published the files, Environmental Progress, which pushes strong views on more than just the environment, claims that the documents reveal “widespread medical malpractice on children and vulnerable adults”. That claim is questionable. But wpath’s standards of care have previously been cited by other medical organisations, particularly in America. The discussions of its members show that the provision of so-called gender-affirming care is riddled with far more doubt than wpath’s outward message that such interventions are “not considered experimental”.

WPATH who push for 'affirming' care for people with 'eunuch gender'? Which is illegal in the UK, as evidenced by latest court cases of the 'eunuch maker', etc.

And who push for this for children?

That WPATH?

The WPATH that NHS Scotland had to refer themselves to Police Scotland for, because in hosting a link to WPATH guidelines they inadvertently hosted a link to a repository of child porn?

That WPATH?

WPATH whom Reduxx have shown has several links to confirmed paedophiles?

That WPATH?

Well, I'm shocked.

WPATH and the NHS Scotland:

https://www.nss.nhs.scot/publications/foi-000234-wpath-document/foi-000234-wpath-document-html/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/27/gender-identity-clinics-across-scotland-secretly-use-extreme/

https://www.scotsman.com/health/investigation-launched-after-documents-published-by-scottish-nhs-in-error-stated-that-eunuch-should-be-recognised-as-formal-identity-3734369

Of course, prominent WPATH members are employed by the NHS.
https://ncth.nhs.uk/meet-the-staff/

Reduxx articles:

https://reduxx.info/top-trans-medical-association-collaborated-with-castration-child-abuse-fetishists/
https://reduxx.info/top-academic-behind-fetish-site-hosting-child-sexual-abuse-fantasy-push-to-revise-wpath-guidelines/
https://reduxx.info/top-academic-behind-fetish-site-hosting-child-sexual-abuse-fantasy-push-to-revise-wpath-guidelines/
https://reduxx.info/trans-authority-cites-pedophilic-forum-reduces-age-restrictions-for-puberty-blockers-and-genital-surgeries/
https://reduxx.info/exclusive-norwegian-sexologist-linked-to-leading-transgender-health-authority-previously-worked-with-pro-pedophilia-lobby-group/

I look forward to the regular TRAs who pop up on threads to talk about how good the affirmative pathway is telling us how all this is just a big lie…