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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again

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DayAndAge · 27/02/2024 08:20

How the metro can put out this tweet which effectively suggests a woman shouldn't be allowed to speak is beyond me. Shocked but not surprised. Comments are heartening though, as is the ratio.

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
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SomeCatFromJapan · 05/03/2024 10:12

Here’s IW from 3 days ago - women with short hair are men?

Seems that IW can misgender with impunity, but gets most offended when someone returns the favour.

Any middle aged white man who posted the same as IW on twitter would have been cancelled by everyoneyears ago.

See my earlier point about Laurence Fox. Not that I'm a fan of his but I genuinely don't think he's ever gone nearly as far as IW.

Lion400 · 05/03/2024 10:14

PronounssheRa · 05/03/2024 10:07

Any middle aged white man who posted the same as IW on twitter would have been cancelled by everyone years ago.

The level of protection provided by being trans really is astonishing

Protection provided mainly by men. Because these men want women’s rights to disappear. It is of benefit to them to silence women. If we look at it through that lens - we can see clearly, that it is not shocking at all.

WitchyWitcherson · 05/03/2024 10:17

PronounssheRa · 05/03/2024 10:07

Any middle aged white man who posted the same as IW on twitter would have been cancelled by everyone years ago.

The level of protection provided by being trans really is astonishing

That's because trans = most marginalised, and once you're the most marginalised, then you're only ever "punching up" which is allowed.

(TRA logic, not mine!)

If there's anything misogynists love, it's a bit of punching, especially when women are on the receiving end.

PronounssheRa · 05/03/2024 10:20

cat

Absolutely & I agree, I think IW holds (and is willing to publicise) opinions that are worse than LF.

Maaate · 05/03/2024 10:24

BezMills · 04/03/2024 09:51

"maaaate"

What?

BezMills · 05/03/2024 10:25

Maaate · 05/03/2024 10:24

What?

I was talking to maaaate, not you maaate 😁

SinnerBoy · 05/03/2024 10:38

SabrinaThwaite · Today 09:55

IW can’t conceive (all puns intended) of the fact that women don’t have to conform to IW’s reductive and misogynistic view of what a woman should look like. Here’s IW from 3 days ago - women with short hair are men?

Why on Earth is she calling Helen Joyce a "child pornography reader"?

WitchyWitcherson · 05/03/2024 10:59

SinnerBoy · 05/03/2024 10:38

SabrinaThwaite · Today 09:55

IW can’t conceive (all puns intended) of the fact that women don’t have to conform to IW’s reductive and misogynistic view of what a woman should look like. Here’s IW from 3 days ago - women with short hair are men?

Why on Earth is she calling Helen Joyce a "child pornography reader"?

HJ did some research on the crossover of fanfic culture and trans identification of girls. This involved some reading of said fanfics, which are often sexual in nature.

Some bloke on a train took a photo of her on her phone, apparently on one of these fanfic pages (specifically a Harry Potter one) and posted it all over X and on a blog saying HJ was addicted to child pornography... as if it were some kind of gotcha moment (when in fact it was one of the most straw-clutching desperate attempts at smearing someone I've ever seen).

IcakethereforeIam · 05/03/2024 11:01

A creepy man gleefully started a goady thread a few days ago, which rapidly became a thread doily, then was taken down.

He'd seen Helen Joyce on a train (claimed he initially didn't recognise her), used his phone to zoom in on and photograph what she was reading (not stalky and creepy at all) and rushed to publish. He said it was Harry Potter fanfic, some of which can be extremely pornographic.

Tldr Google Helen Joyce fanfic, she's got an interesting article about it, mentions the creep in passing.

Beowulfa · 05/03/2024 11:04

Imagine if a member of the Royal Family or a Tory MP posted that image with the frumpy comments and implications that lesbians are actually men.

SinnerBoy · 05/03/2024 11:04

WitchyWitcherson · Today 10:59

^Why on Earth is she calling Helen Joyce a "child pornography reader"?
HJ did some research on the crossover of fanfic culture and trans identification of girls. This involved some reading of said fanfics, which are often sexual in nature.^

Thank you and IcakethereforeIam as well; how did that one pass me by?

ArabellaScott · 05/03/2024 11:10

Because it was such obvious bullshit it didn't seem really worth remarking on.

'Journalist reads text for research' - turned by the desperate, creepy and malignant into accusations of 'Joyce addicted to 'child porn''. Just a pathetic attempt to smear mud in the hope some might stick.

WallaceinAnderland · 05/03/2024 11:57

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1763582594526941224

@SabrinaThwaite that post came immediately to my mind too.

IW regularly refers to women as men if they don't fit IW's warped idea that only women with long hair are women. And other endless ageist name calling. The abuse has been going on for months on end. Goading, goading, goading. And when someone retaliates? Wah, wah, wah 😭😭😭

Cry bully

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1763320371825017280

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1763320371825017280

Lion400 · 05/03/2024 11:57

ArabellaScott · 05/03/2024 11:10

Because it was such obvious bullshit it didn't seem really worth remarking on.

'Journalist reads text for research' - turned by the desperate, creepy and malignant into accusations of 'Joyce addicted to 'child porn''. Just a pathetic attempt to smear mud in the hope some might stick.

Indeed. Embarrassing for them really. Shows them up for who they are. There is a certain inevitability to it all.

RedToothBrush · 05/03/2024 12:35

The Indy seems to be running the headline
JKR deliberately misgenders transactivist India Willoughby.

Its infuriating that theres NEVER a comment about Willoughby's behaviour.

This needs to stop.

Why should women be 'polite' and 'respectful' with pronouns in the face of this constant abuse? Its not ok. When are politicians going to crack down on it? When are they going to say "it doesn't matter what you identify as, if you are homophobic, sexist, harass or abuse, you WILL be held to account and you will be treated just like everyone else 'because equality'".

Ultimately this is what made me see through the shit show on a personal level. I wasn't prepared to tolerate behaviour that was unacceptable and was derogatory and abusive.

NonPlayerCharacter · 05/03/2024 12:43

Can someone with an account do the useless rag's job for it and show the actual context?

ArabellaScott · 05/03/2024 12:46

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/16/its-the-hatred-for-jk-rowling-that-is-truly-nasty/

'...her worst offence, what really makes her ‘brittle, insecure, cruel’ in the eyes of her critics, is her gender-critical heresy. Not only has she had the temerity to write about dark things – she also has the audacity to think that people with penises are men, not women. Her sin is to know biology, and to believe women have the right to their own spaces, free of the male sex. This makes her a TERF, which is PC-speak for witch.'

It’s the hatred for JK Rowling that is truly ‘nasty’

We need to talk about the arrested development of Rowling’s shrill critics.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/16/its-the-hatred-for-jk-rowling-that-is-truly-nasty

ArabellaScott · 05/03/2024 12:46

NonPlayerCharacter · 05/03/2024 12:43

Can someone with an account do the useless rag's job for it and show the actual context?

Hanlon's razor doesn't really seem plausible in this instance.

Beowulfa · 05/03/2024 13:12

Willoughby is a common or garden playground bully. The name-calling of lesbians based on their appearance is what you'd expect from an insecure teenage boy, or a sulky incel still living with his mum in his 20s.

Edit to add- I find it incomprehensible that someone this publicly abusive gets any kind of paid media work.

WitchyWitcherson · 05/03/2024 13:21

ArabellaScott · 05/03/2024 12:46

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/16/its-the-hatred-for-jk-rowling-that-is-truly-nasty/

'...her worst offence, what really makes her ‘brittle, insecure, cruel’ in the eyes of her critics, is her gender-critical heresy. Not only has she had the temerity to write about dark things – she also has the audacity to think that people with penises are men, not women. Her sin is to know biology, and to believe women have the right to their own spaces, free of the male sex. This makes her a TERF, which is PC-speak for witch.'

Good article although not sure it's an issue with "millennials" so much as an issue with particular types of men (speaking as a millennial myself!)

Froodwithatowel · 05/03/2024 13:36

Good article although not sure it's an issue with "millennials" so much as an issue with particular types of men (speaking as a millennial myself!)

This.

It's not a millenial issue, it's an issue with a particular type of men making bloody awful choices in behaviour towards others.

It's not a trans issue. It's an issue with a particular type of man making bloody awful choices in behaviours towards others.

Hiding it behind figleaves of large groups just supports and enables the behaviour.

WallaceinAnderland · 05/03/2024 14:09

I find it incomprehensible that someone this publicly abusive gets any kind of paid media work

They don't. IW is unemployed and, in IW's own words, unemployable now due to 'being transgender'.

WitchyWitcherson · 05/03/2024 14:13

WallaceinAnderland · 05/03/2024 14:09

I find it incomprehensible that someone this publicly abusive gets any kind of paid media work

They don't. IW is unemployed and, in IW's own words, unemployable now due to 'being transgender'.

Nothing to do with being an insufferable bellend 😂

Chersfrozenface · 05/03/2024 14:14

WallaceinAnderland · 05/03/2024 14:09

I find it incomprehensible that someone this publicly abusive gets any kind of paid media work

They don't. IW is unemployed and, in IW's own words, unemployable now due to 'being transgender'.

Out of interest, when was IW's last paid media appearance?

First Dates doesn't count, the participants get £25 towards the meal and that's it.

And does IW create any content paid for by subscription?

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