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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again

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DayAndAge · 27/02/2024 08:20

How the metro can put out this tweet which effectively suggests a woman shouldn't be allowed to speak is beyond me. Shocked but not surprised. Comments are heartening though, as is the ratio.

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
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Boiledbeetle · 03/03/2024 10:29

Biggest I could find was a 12 cup one. But there's only six of us, and I prefer tea so that's over two cups each before someone has to refill it.

Lion400 · 03/03/2024 10:29

Chersfrozenface · 03/03/2024 10:16

We're gonna need a bigger cafetière.

😂 🦈

IcakethereforeIam · 03/03/2024 10:29

Fgs, not decaff 😬

SinnerBoy · 03/03/2024 10:34

AAAARRRRRGH!

Desecrated coffee is the very Devil.

Swoon

Boiledbeetle · 03/03/2024 10:35

Whilst we wait I'll just take a quick photo of our get together

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
IcakethereforeIam · 03/03/2024 10:53

Is that me in the middle 😃

MarieDeGournay · 03/03/2024 11:33

BoiledBeetle, your whirligig beetle cousin looks like someone asked her 'How has trans ideology gained so much traction?' and she replied with a dramatic shrug☺

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
WickedSerious · 03/03/2024 11:43

Boiledbeetle · 03/03/2024 10:29

Biggest I could find was a 12 cup one. But there's only six of us, and I prefer tea so that's over two cups each before someone has to refill it.

Wheel it over.

Boiledbeetle · 03/03/2024 11:58

@MarieDeGournay yeah that's Brenda, she's very much a TERF these days, she used to be very TBAB (Trans Beetles Are Beetles) but then a slug called Simone (I mean the name gave it away even before he turned up all slimy like, he didn't even change it to Beryl or Betty!) tried pressurising her to go on a date as he was as much of a beetle as her ex Barry and got really shitty with her when she turned him down, since then she's been raging.

@WickedSerious Its the big one at the back.

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
WickedSerious · 03/03/2024 12:01

IcakethereforeIam · 03/03/2024 10:53

Is that me in the middle 😃

I like your hat.

Chersfrozenface · 03/03/2024 12:05

WickedSerious · 03/03/2024 12:01

I like your hat.

It's gender neutral, too. My husband has just bought one exactly like it. (Because reasons.)

SinnerBoy · 03/03/2024 12:18

MarieDeGournay · Today 11:33

BoiledBeetle, your whirligig beetle cousin looks like someone asked her 'How has trans ideology gained so much traction?' and she replied with a dramatic shrug

I'm glad that my wife and daughter have gone out, so I don't have to explain my laughter...

Boiledbeetle · 03/03/2024 12:54

IcakethereforeIam · 03/03/2024 10:53

Is that me in the middle 😃

Well you are eating the big cake!

IcakethereforeIam · 03/03/2024 12:56

I was worried I was the big cake!

Boiledbeetle · 03/03/2024 12:59

A quick change of attire and I set the timer so I could be in the shot.

So here it is the only photo in existence of the six mumsnetters of the FWR board

JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again
Waitwhat23 · 03/03/2024 15:43

Baggsy the Mohawk Dino - I like the cut of her jib.

Boiledbeetle · 03/03/2024 17:11

I'm the chunky one on the left at the back looking like I'm about to eat Cakes head

WickedSerious · 03/03/2024 17:57

I like the fact that there's a nice selection of hot beverages there.

windowframer · 03/03/2024 18:52

IncompleteSenten · 03/03/2024 07:54

Really? "JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again" sounds a lot like she shouldn't speak.

How do you interpret it?

As exactly what it says: the writer is sad about the fact that she spoke.

This doesn't in any possible way mean that the writer is advocating that she shouldn't be allowed to speak, as the OP wildy claimed. Unless you believe that everything that makes you sad shouldn't be allowed, and assume that everyone else believes the same.

The existence of Freedom Of Speech doesn't negate the freedom of others to respond to that speech, to express how they feel about it. Not does it mean that everybody has to agree with what is spoken.

I'm a huge supporter of JKR by the way. But have no time for this kind of silly hyperbole imagining attempts to trample of rights of expression where no such attempts exist.

Froodwithatowel · 03/03/2024 20:16

the writer is sad about the fact that she spoke.

No, the sentence means that the writer is regretful that JK Rowling has opened her mouth and spoken again.

Easy mistake to make, but yes, it is in the writer's opinion, sad that a woman has spoken.

DayAndAge · 03/03/2024 21:04

Love that @windowframer has no time for silly hyperbole but evidently no time to understand nuance either.

Why do you suppose the Metro scrambled to delete the tweet within an hour if it was simply referencing a sadness?

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DayAndAge · 03/03/2024 21:04

Love that @windowframer has no time for silly hyperbole but evidently no time to understand nuance either.

Why do you suppose the Metro scrambled to delete the tweet within an hour if it was simply referencing a sadness?

Nobody who crafts such a pompous post has any place complaining about hyperbole.

A key point in this issue is all the transparent efforts to stop women speaking, and everyone knows what a woman is when telling them to shut up. The underlying implication is clear; there's a reason the words were about JKR speaking (actually just the vacuous act of "opening her mouth") and not what she actually said.

windowframer · 03/03/2024 21:56

DayAndAge · 03/03/2024 21:04

Love that @windowframer has no time for silly hyperbole but evidently no time to understand nuance either.

Why do you suppose the Metro scrambled to delete the tweet within an hour if it was simply referencing a sadness?

No idea. I can only react to the information given. That information simply doesn't say, or even suggest, that JK shouldn't be allowed to speak. The OP made that part up. I don't see how speculation about the Metro's reasons for their actions - which could be any number of things - makes any difference to that.

windowframer · 03/03/2024 22:02

NonPlayerCharacter · 03/03/2024 21:11

Nobody who crafts such a pompous post has any place complaining about hyperbole.

A key point in this issue is all the transparent efforts to stop women speaking, and everyone knows what a woman is when telling them to shut up. The underlying implication is clear; there's a reason the words were about JKR speaking (actually just the vacuous act of "opening her mouth") and not what she actually said.

I'm sorry you find a simple statement of what was and wasn't in the tweet, and what additional claims were therefore invented by the OP, "pompous". Some of us attach importance to what words mean and whether things are true or not.

When you refer to "this issue" and "efforts to stop women speaking" you may well be right in general terms. That doesn't mean that that happened on this occasion though. It didn't. And just as JK must continue having the right to speak truth about gender ideology, others have the right to speak their opinion about what she says, without being accused of doing something they didn't do.

pronounsbundlebundle · 03/03/2024 22:49

Goodness, some people really are scraping the barrel in defending misogyny now.

Loving the dino pic. I identify as the green one with the top hat, if not already taken.

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