JK Rowling has sadly opened her mouth again

[DayAndAge]

How the metro can put out this tweet which effectively suggests a woman shouldn't be allowed to speak is beyond me. Shocked but not surprised. Comments are heartening though, as is the ratio.

Also, in light of the denial of it's importance,or lack thereof, of any difference between Letby and Blake's crime; just in reading the reports can we see the different forms the crime takes? One was using medication/medical equipment to kill babies,the other hitting full grown man over the head and carrying them to a river to dump them. That's a interesting difference in itself...if you're not a hectoring, disingenuous close minded individual 🤔

There was a real woman convicted of rape (Julie Morris, a deputy head teacher) - I always bring her up in these situations. She's probably the only one ever, must have been joint enterprise or something.

I think for a female to be convicted of rape it involves assisting a penis to rape. In Scotland anyway. Happy to be corrected though.

Well if they start calling men’s crimes women’s crimes they’ve just come up with another way to tell the world we women are “craaaazy” right?

look at all us women running around muttering people and cats!

That's right. You seem surprised and even shocked. TW are male by definition, and TM are female by definition.

TRAs don't want third spaces.

And considering a transwoman is a man then the male prison estate is totally appropriate. They are used to prisoners who may be vulnerable for a variety of reasons. How they deal with that in the male estate though is of no concern to me. All I care about is that these men don't end up in with the women.

I didnt either until I read about the rise of 'female' sex offenders.
I should have cottoned on sooner though, many moons ago I worked in a unit complex that housed sex offenders. Out of 20? there were 2 living as females and had legally changed their name.
Though this was over 6 years ago so I think the aim of the game was different then.

That reminds me of my pet house (buck) rabbit who attacked shoes worn by male human visitors and mounted shoes worn by female human visitors. Billy Buck hated a particular male relative of mine so much that he shredded my relative’s trousers!

Lots of other animal species have no trouble distinguishing between male and female humans.

There are many men who are at extra risk in prison for various reasons. They're usually classified as 'vulnerable'. The nature of Blake's crimes might well have put him in this category even without his transgender indentity.

Sad to see that the AIBU thread I started on trans men - trans women, suggesting that it makes more sense for males transitioning to women (so not women) be called trans men not trans women, was removed. Particularly linked to the media confusing readers / viewers by calling male rapists / murderers, women or trans women.

Forgot to add. They presented as 'female' as in wore dresses etc... I hate myself for saying that. They acted like the violent male offenders they were though.

Oh I can answer that.

Trans women must be called what they want to be called or it's literal violence that will trigger and kill them.

Women must be called what trans women want women to be called or it's literal violence that will trigger and kill them.

Trans womens preferences for how they are referred to must be respected.
Women's preferences for how they are referred to must be ignored in favour of what transwomen want women to be referred to.

If trans women were women they'd stfu and do what others want and put their own needs behind everything because that's what female socialisation has trained us to do.

Male socialisation OTOH leads to people who believe everyone must prioritise their wants and needs.

It's easy to see who's really who when you look at it that way.

Thank goodness for JKR opening her mouth again.

DadJoke

Did you just mis gender someone?
Isn't that (by your sides view) literal violence?

Hmmm, this is interesting too, when you put it like that. What about trans men though (as in, born female, wants to be / feels they are men)?

Indeed. Long may she do so.

I'm starting to think we're making a mistake engaging with him.
Every time we do, we make him think his opinion's worth shit.

Sorry, what does GC mean? Guessing not "General Contractor"!

Haha, Gender Critical. So usually of the opinion that "gender" is a construct rather than fact. That sex is fixed, and regardless of meds and surgery, male and female bodies are and will always be either male or female (excluding the miniscule amount of people biologically born intersex).

Anybody who thinks a 'trans-woman' is actually a woman should be certified as insane. I'm looking at you Daniel Radcliffe et al. I can't believe they even tried/are trying to pull this stunt on us.

Make sure you check what your kids are being taught at school - and I say this as a teacher.

I quite agree if they're rapists or murderers, of course!

What about someone who GENUINELY are trans women - that is, have been for some time, and look like women due to surgery of some sort. And if they're in prison for a nonviolent crime such as theft or drugs, for arguments sake. Personally I think it's unreasonable in those circumstances to chuck them in with all the male rapists / murderers iyswim. A few people upstream have mentioned wings in male prisons with extra security etc for vulnerable men. I guess a third type of "other" prison would be an extension of that, in a sense.

My kids school sent out a letter last week about a camping trip. They put:-

"Students will camp in provided tents, and will be separated into a male students field and a female students field"

I gave a silent thanks to whichever sensible staff member thought to word the letter that way in order to not be ambiguous.

SecondUsername4me

The majority of GC people are advocates of "third spaces". However these third spaces would be to accommodate men. So men can fight for them. Women fight for enough shit.

I think that this is the wrong way to look at it.
You/we are fighting for third spaces to protect women only spaces.

Oops.