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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbian members club to only allow biological women

478 replies

JanesLittleGirl · 18/02/2024 12:52

"A FEMINIST campaigner is to open the UK’s first lesbian members bar that will only allow biological women to join.

The bar, named the L Community, is due to open in London later this year and will operate as a private members club so that it can bar trans women.

The bar has been set up by Jenny Watson, who in September last year was at the centre of a transphobia row after she insisted only “adult human females” could attend the lesbian speed-dating events she had organised."

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Datun · 22/02/2024 00:57

The beauty of this is that as the tide is turning, any demonstrations about this place or be swiftly dealt with.

And I bet it spawns other places.

I remember a lesbian telling me that there simply were no more lesbian only places, which was shocking.

I'm going to predict this is only the first.

The risible nonsense that lesbians like dick is going to be put to bed once all those lesbians flock to the female only place.

IwantToRetire · 22/02/2024 01:08

Journalist and broadcaster Shivani Dave issued a call out on Instagram, saying “I wanna make out with you all. Literally all of you. If this opens, show your love for trans+ people and let’s go old school and have a big ole snog with each other. Kiss in at the door of the TERF bar, dolls, lesbians, bi+ women, dykes, tbois a big T4T make out. Cis people welcome, no chasers, no terfs, no cops.”

In a follow-up post, they wrote, “YOU THINK I’M JOKING? We are gonna go and make out in front of this TERF bar every single day until it closes. Lol that is if it ever even opens. Bigots be bigoting? Trans+ people are gonna be snogging.”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lgbtq-community-rallies-against-trans-163722667.html

I suspect this is in fact a minority view, but what is so disgusting in MSM media repeating this violent extremism, which they wouldn't be allowed to threatened against any other group. But the women aren't even considered important enough to be protected by hate crime legislation.

As always, it is a reminder that why the TRA message is spread so widely is it has the established platform on entrenched misogyny - the MRAs who never went away, and never changed.

As posts on this thread illustrate.

LGBTQ+ community rallies against new trans-exclusionary lesbian bar in London

The LGBTQ+ community is speaking out in opposition to a new trans-exclusionary lesbian bar in London. The venue, named L Community, is due to open later this year as a private members club so that it can “legally restrict” entry to cisgender women only...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lgbtq-community-rallies-against-trans-163722667.html

Datun · 22/02/2024 01:14

Let the intolerant wankers come and try and shut it down. The tide has turned.

It's about time people realised what is happening to lesbians. Let's have the whole thing in the papers, the cotton ceiling, the sexual racism of homosexuality, the lot.

BezMills · 22/02/2024 04:11

It not trans exclusionary. Misogynists always overlook the existence of trans identifying females when they are whining about why men aren't allowed somewhere and crying transphobia.

Rightsraptor · 22/02/2024 05:02

A bit of nonsense there about 'experts' saying it's essential to include gender-diverse and the alphabet soup people. Who is this 'expert', expert in what exactly and why is it essential to include Uncle Tom Cobbley and all?

Answers on a postcard, please.

MidCleg · 22/02/2024 05:08

Well done Jenny! This is such great news.
When I speak to my friends about there being no lesbian-only venues in the U.K. they're incredulous. So now we have one!

For the blokes here who've been complaining.. you know we've been hearing this for ever right?

Always always the men upset we won't let them in.

Now you hurl the word "transphobic" at us.. and we say "we accept all female homosexuals". 'Cis' (sorry, trying to make a point) females, non-binary females and trans identifying females

How is that trans-exclusive @DadJoke @suggestionsplease1 ?

BezMills · 22/02/2024 06:51

Your group of actual lesbians is very gender diverse, as far as I can see. All kinds of genders and even Agender, Non-Gender and some who are GISB (Gender Is Specious Bollocks). So I think they have the old Genders covered, without needing some kind of Amateur Gender Police getting all up in their business on the mumsnets telling them they're Gendering Wrong.

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/02/2024 07:32

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/02/2024 18:42

Stonewall's associate director of policy and research, to be precise.

The UK is full of sensibly-dressed women with short hair and glasses, who are never out of jeans and a jumper. None of them seem to get bothered in the toilets.

You know something else?

They never bother other women in the toilets either.

It really pisses me off when people say "What about getting changed in the same room as a woman who is a lesbian? Why is that OK but a transwoman isn't? BIGOT!'

It's because lesbian women can leave people alone and don't seem to feel the need to force themselves on other people. Good heavens - it's almost as though lesbian women are just women, isn't it? And not men in frocks."

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/02/2024 07:37

ADoggyDogWorld · 21/02/2024 23:23

I laughed at cockettishly, superb wordsmithing there 😍

Best pun ever! 😂

MadeOfAllWork · 22/02/2024 07:43

IwantToRetire · 22/02/2024 01:08

Journalist and broadcaster Shivani Dave issued a call out on Instagram, saying “I wanna make out with you all. Literally all of you. If this opens, show your love for trans+ people and let’s go old school and have a big ole snog with each other. Kiss in at the door of the TERF bar, dolls, lesbians, bi+ women, dykes, tbois a big T4T make out. Cis people welcome, no chasers, no terfs, no cops.”

In a follow-up post, they wrote, “YOU THINK I’M JOKING? We are gonna go and make out in front of this TERF bar every single day until it closes. Lol that is if it ever even opens. Bigots be bigoting? Trans+ people are gonna be snogging.”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lgbtq-community-rallies-against-trans-163722667.html

I suspect this is in fact a minority view, but what is so disgusting in MSM media repeating this violent extremism, which they wouldn't be allowed to threatened against any other group. But the women aren't even considered important enough to be protected by hate crime legislation.

As always, it is a reminder that why the TRA message is spread so widely is it has the established platform on entrenched misogyny - the MRAs who never went away, and never changed.

As posts on this thread illustrate.

Let’s change this, (as we are often told to do).

How dare Jewish people open a club where only Jewish people can go! I’m going to stand outside and eat a bacon sandwich every day until it shuts down.

TheClogLady · 22/02/2024 07:51

Shivani Dave’s planned Snog-In sounds like a ‘consent accident’ waiting to happen…

bombastix · 22/02/2024 08:03

Ew mate. So long as the door gets closed on this I'm good.

If you are a trans accepting lesbian then ok. Just accept as the law does that others don't share your view. Legally, that's all it is.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 22/02/2024 08:21

If you didn’t go places where people are snogging outside then thats every evening venue….and the local corner store

valentines would be a bust, and New Years

PriOn1 · 22/02/2024 08:24

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/02/2024 07:32

You know something else?

They never bother other women in the toilets either.

It really pisses me off when people say "What about getting changed in the same room as a woman who is a lesbian? Why is that OK but a transwoman isn't? BIGOT!'

It's because lesbian women can leave people alone and don't seem to feel the need to force themselves on other people. Good heavens - it's almost as though lesbian women are just women, isn't it? And not men in frocks."

It’s not just about lesbians leaving women alone (and of course the fact that women are less predatory in general). Lesbians always been in women’s spaces and grew up using them. Moving a man into that space is hugely different.

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/02/2024 08:29

RufustheFactualReindeer · 22/02/2024 08:21

If you didn’t go places where people are snogging outside then thats every evening venue….and the local corner store

valentines would be a bust, and New Years

Rules out a lot of bus shelters, too.

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/02/2024 08:29

PriOn1 · 22/02/2024 08:24

It’s not just about lesbians leaving women alone (and of course the fact that women are less predatory in general). Lesbians always been in women’s spaces and grew up using them. Moving a man into that space is hugely different.

Indeed.

lechiffre55 · 22/02/2024 08:40

Journalist and broadcaster Shivani Dave issued a call out on Instagram, saying “I wanna make out with you all. Literally all of you. If this opens, show your love for trans+ people and let’s go old school and have a big ole snog with each other. Kiss in at the door of the TERF bar, dolls, lesbians, bi+ women, dykes, tbois a big T4T make out. Cis people welcome, no chasers, no terfs, no cops.”

I love the irony of them protesting against being excluded by people who don't want to share a space with them, and at the same time no chasers, no terfs, no cops. It's almost like there's some people they don't want to share their spaces with too...... The lack of self awareness is mind boggling.

Might I suggest if you don't want to be near terfs then perhaps don't go to the TERF Palace of Penisless Delights?

Froodwithatowel · 22/02/2024 08:44

Absolutely barking. No concept at all of the optics of this, men going berserk that a small group of women are daring to have an inch of space they can't control and own. The utter intolerance and awful behaviour and attitudes towards women - well we couldn't buy this kind of publicity to get the general public to see this movement for what it is.

Men are as 'essential' to female homosexuality as a bicycle is to a fish. And no women inside is going to care who is kissing who outside - so long as they're inside not being bugged by men who feel entitled to their time, their subordination and their bodies, and to punish them for not dick-pandering. Snog away. Fuck each other on the pavements. Have a lovely time.

These are men with very major problems between their ears, they really are.

MadeOfAllWork · 22/02/2024 08:46

Why would a bunch of lesbians care that some people are snogging outside?

DialSquare · 22/02/2024 08:47

Froodwithatowel · 22/02/2024 08:44

Absolutely barking. No concept at all of the optics of this, men going berserk that a small group of women are daring to have an inch of space they can't control and own. The utter intolerance and awful behaviour and attitudes towards women - well we couldn't buy this kind of publicity to get the general public to see this movement for what it is.

Men are as 'essential' to female homosexuality as a bicycle is to a fish. And no women inside is going to care who is kissing who outside - so long as they're inside not being bugged by men who feel entitled to their time, their subordination and their bodies, and to punish them for not dick-pandering. Snog away. Fuck each other on the pavements. Have a lovely time.

These are men with very major problems between their ears, they really are.

Edited

Yep. I would describe it as bullying and authoritarian behaviour.

Froodwithatowel · 22/02/2024 08:49

And as they shout 'bigot', it will present a really lovely opportunity to teach the general public about the term 'DARVO' and how it applies to controlling and abusive men with serious problems when it comes to women.

bombastix · 22/02/2024 08:50

It's absurd. But you do have to remember it's only a certain sort of man that is like this. Tbh there is zero reason why such a club cannot have door staff which are male and protect the members. That's not new though it is tragic it's still a thing, it's a good idea. It's accepting of a reality that some men who are activists in this area are violent, immature and enjoy intimidating people.

The longer this goes on, the more I think some trans activists who are male share thinking that is basically like domestic abusers. Manipulative and entitled and similar tactics.

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/02/2024 08:53

lechiffre55 · 22/02/2024 08:40

Journalist and broadcaster Shivani Dave issued a call out on Instagram, saying “I wanna make out with you all. Literally all of you. If this opens, show your love for trans+ people and let’s go old school and have a big ole snog with each other. Kiss in at the door of the TERF bar, dolls, lesbians, bi+ women, dykes, tbois a big T4T make out. Cis people welcome, no chasers, no terfs, no cops.”

I love the irony of them protesting against being excluded by people who don't want to share a space with them, and at the same time no chasers, no terfs, no cops. It's almost like there's some people they don't want to share their spaces with too...... The lack of self awareness is mind boggling.

Might I suggest if you don't want to be near terfs then perhaps don't go to the TERF Palace of Penisless Delights?

Edited

I thought that, too - very exclusionary if you ask me.

Three demographics they just don't want to exist.

SamW98 · 22/02/2024 08:53

Rightsraptor · 22/02/2024 05:02

A bit of nonsense there about 'experts' saying it's essential to include gender-diverse and the alphabet soup people. Who is this 'expert', expert in what exactly and why is it essential to include Uncle Tom Cobbley and all?

Answers on a postcard, please.

Well colour me shocked the quoted ‘expert’ is a bloke - who saw that coming?

BezMills · 22/02/2024 08:54

"journalist and broadcaster" translates in this case to "has a blog and a youtube account" I would guess.

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