Lesbian members club to only allow biological women

[JanesLittleGirl]

"A FEMINIST campaigner is to open the UK’s first lesbian members bar that will only allow biological women to join.

The bar, named the L Community, is due to open in London later this year and will operate as a private members club so that it can bar trans women.

The bar has been set up by Jenny Watson, who in September last year was at the centre of a transphobia row after she insisted only “adult human females” could attend the lesbian speed-dating events she had organised."

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I'll get an archive link in a bit.

If they are in a relationship with a transwoman they aren't lesbians. The term leasbian is taken. Find another word. Here's one to try, heterosexual.

Yeah, we tend not to share values with bullies and authoritarians either, must be the weird lesbians I hang out with eh.

Doesn't that make you Bi sexual if you are attracted to men and women?
Or, in Newspeak, are a lesbian attracted to trans people.

I think these angry plopping posts are proving that Lesbians need a Lesbian club for Lesbians only.

Perhaps angry ploppers should have their own 'angry ploppers only' club too.

This post reminds me of the tweet from Monty moaning about the patriarchy.

"Essential" to who, I wonder?

Not gay women, that's for sure.

Why do I have a strange and unaccountable feeling in my water that his could possibly be a lie set-up exaggeration?

Yes - we'll settle for exaggeration.

The lesbians I know are not really interested in 'girl dick' and are getting a bit fed up of either getting censored on dating apps for stating that preference or being pressured by activists to include men in their dating pool. It's also curious how often those transwomen specify that they only want to date actual women rather then fellow transwomen.

Ooh yes. Then they could swap violent toilet bashing stories and out do each other with links to the Guardian and play Billy Bragg on a loop. Whilst measuring each others penises to see who was the biggest Dick.

Only nasty women ever want time and space away from men.

<ticks card>

So what?

The lesbians that wish to attend lesbian only clubs or speed dating events want to spend time, build friendships and potential relationships with people who share similar values to yourself, generally.

And that is a problem because?

Actual LOL at that one.

No, no bullying or authoritarianism in the #bekind movement at all. None. No siree bob.

You're here on a thread about lesbians having one space of their own - not lesbians trying to shut down all the many marvellous TQ+ spaces you and your great mates patronise, just having one space for actual female, female attracted lesbians - but it's those lesbians who are the authoritarian bullies. Not you.

Agreed.

I'd support them if it was required, though, in the same way that I support the LGB Alliance even though I am straight.

All of us, whatever our sexuality, need to stand together against this pernicious destruction of common sense which is so damaging - to women whatever their sexuality, to children, to gay men, to families and ultimately to society. It is not only a denial of biology but also an assault on freedom of choice and free speech.

It really is that dangerous.

It's no problem at all, but in terms of commercial viability, if that is of any interest, it's a model that is going to have problems.

Because the vast majority of lesbians have very inclusive attitudes to trans populations in their social circles.

I didn't mean to suggest that anyone was being patronising. Just second guessing my own instincts...

This or both smart and lawful. Inclusivity is an idea, but so long as the Garrick can exclude women so too can a lesbian club exclude biological men.

I will be signing up. I don't want to spend the evening discussing inclusionary bullshit so this sounds ideal.

"Most women never want to be away from men. (You're isolated, alone, different and shameful...."

<ticks card while remembering the videos of people trying to talk kids into taking drugs, "all your friends are doing it, you don't want to be left out or thought to be frigid/boring do you??" coercion 101>

"There's hardly ANY of you wanting this"

<and yet enough that they've set up a club that is hugely getting up your nose and is obviously causing you anxiety and annoyance. Wonder why? Is it that other women might escape if they have a female only option to the mixed sex one enforced on them?>

@YouJustDoYou once again, you think that I have suggested this club should not exist. I have not. Nor have I said anyone has to date anyone.

The vast majority of lesbians accept trans women as women. A woman attracted to a woman is a lesbian. Attempting to impose your narrow-minded views on the vast majority of lesbians is absolutely on-point for gender critical people.

I think some people don't understand what 'vast majority of lesbians' means.

Hint: it doesn't mean 'me'.

"Most lesbians want..... <despite no survey at all of this>"

<ticks card. Holds up sign yet again, that here is another lesbian female who does not share in a belief that a male person at any point becomes a woman. And doesn't predicate her beliefs on what she's instructed by men to benefit other men.>

This is great, I'll be calling bingo any minute!

It's no problem at all, but in terms of commercial viability, if that is of any interest, it's a model that is going to have problems.

Really? There were enough lesbians wanting a lesbian only speed dating event run by Jenny for that to be commercially viable. Of course that just couldn't be allowed by your fellow TRAs could it? It had to be shut down with threats and abuse, and you have the gall to post this: Yeah, we tend not to share values with bullies and authoritarians either, must be the weird lesbians I hang out with eh.

Because the vast majority of lesbians have very inclusive attitudes to trans populations in their social circles.

We'll see won't we. I wouldn't want to include in any social circle of mine the kind of bullying authoritarian cowards that threaten and abuse lesbians who want any lesbian only space whether that is a speed dating event or a club, but you do do.

So if the vast majority of lesbian accept TWAW and you have no problem with this club existing, what point are you trying to make?

Because the vast majority of lesbians have very inclusive attitudes to trans populations in their social circles.
That's just your opinion. I'm fine with all sorts of different people within my wider social circle including trans men.

My social circle also includes Somali born elders. I don't insist on attending their Sunday lunch club. Why? Because now and then it's just nice to chat to those whom you share a certain special something with. I wouldn't dream of barging into their meetup.

Likewise, sometimes I just like to be with women who are same sex attracted.
I don't get in a froth about people who prefer to do something else. Away and do it.

The vast majority of lesbians accept trans women as women. A woman attracted to a woman is a lesbian. Attempting to impose your narrow-minded views on the vast majority of lesbians is absolutely on-point for gender critical people.

Okay let's play this game then.

The overwhelming majority of the public do not believe TWAW and TMAM attempting to impose your narrow view on the vast majority of people is absolutely on point for MRAs and TRAs.