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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie has launched her new party!

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HirplesWithHaggis · 08/02/2024 18:00

Party of Women, a registered political party.

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SinnerBoy · 13/02/2024 04:41

windowframer · Yesterday 21:03

You mean like Boris Johnson refusing a leaders' debate in 2019? Or David Cameron doing the same in 2015? Yeah, just look how it destroyed them . . .

But the right wing press approved of them and wrote supportively, only the Guardian and Mirror criticised them properly. They hate Starmer and are aware of the issue of GID as a hot button topic; if he refuses to engage, they're going to be like a dog with a bone.

BezMills · 13/02/2024 07:35

If TPOW is really doing that, is a heck of a lot of cheddar! 250k in deposits and extra kaching for a PPB

lifeturnsonadime · 13/02/2024 09:07

Perhaps part of the issue is that that is what KJK said publicly. If things have moved on, and they might well have, then once she makes a new public statement and/ or releases a manifesto then things will be clearly.

Either way it seems reasonable to me to suggest that if the opposition actually defined women independently of males and committed to rectifying the harms done to women by the GRA and the Equality Act, then there would be no real need for a new party to advocate for these things.

I'm not sure that politics is a career of choice for Posie, but again I may be wrong, she has rather been forced into this position by the lack of representation from the main parties of the rights for women.

lifeturnsonadime · 13/02/2024 09:09

RebekBern · 13/02/2024 04:14

I believe that the January 5th application was rejected. On the electoral commission site it says Feb 7th was the registration date. This was her 3rd application.
I believe the party is standing in every council in May and in over 500 constituencies for the GE. This is in order to secure a party political broadcast.

I'll be donating as well as joining the party when it's launched.

If this is true and there will be representation in 500 councils that has really developed since the interview on GB News last year.

Amazing.

LWSnow · 13/02/2024 09:27

She'll need women (us) to join her party and stand for elections in various roles from councillors to MP's.
She us on this board to stand.

Emotionalsupportviper · 13/02/2024 20:42

windowframer · 12/02/2024 21:03

You mean like Boris Johnson refusing a leaders' debate in 2019? Or David Cameron doing the same in 2015?

Yeah, just look how it destroyed them . . .

Johnson was, and probably still is, an arsehole - however he charmed the nation (Christ knows how) with his buffoonery and floppy-haired "charm". <boak>

If there is one thing that no-one can accuse Starmmer of, it is having charm.

HPFA · 15/02/2024 18:42

Well, maybe Posie won't even get the chance to stand against Starmer.

This person you've never heard of is apparently going to win.

https://twitter.com/OneQuantumLeap/status/1757851332147331140

https://twitter.com/OneQuantumLeap/status/1757851332147331140

Snowypeaks · 15/02/2024 18:51

Perhaps she will stand against Starmer wherever he decides to stand?

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 18:52

Yes maybe just stand where he is

Although just googled that guy below maybe he’ll do the same

BlackForestCake · 15/02/2024 18:56

I don't know what that person is thinking claiming Starmer is going to be "parachuted into a safe seat". Starmer's seat is one of the safest in the country. In 2017 he got 70% of the vote and in 2019 64%. If he can't win there, he can't win anywhere.

(This is actually a good thing because people will have confidence to vote for a protest candidate)

BlackForestCake · 15/02/2024 19:01

You can look up the election results for the last 40 years on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holborn_and_St_Pancras_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

No non-Labour candidate has EVER got more than 31% of the vote there, while Labour has won comfortably with an absolute majority of the vote several times.

Holborn and St Pancras (UK Parliament constituency) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holborn_and_St_Pancras_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 19:04

BlackForestCake · 15/02/2024 19:01

You can look up the election results for the last 40 years on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holborn_and_St_Pancras_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

No non-Labour candidate has EVER got more than 31% of the vote there, while Labour has won comfortably with an absolute majority of the vote several times.

Not sure why he’d leave such a safe seat

No idea who the Twitter person is though either, or how sound the info is

HPFA · 15/02/2024 21:23

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 19:04

Not sure why he’d leave such a safe seat

No idea who the Twitter person is though either, or how sound the info is

I think the Twitter person is another one thinking his followers represent a huge part of public opinion.

I still can't see how the pool of potential voters for PP is anywhere like large enough. She's looking for people who feel strongly about the issue but a fair few of those find her overall politics (and often her personality) quite repellent.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 21:29

HPFA · 15/02/2024 21:23

I think the Twitter person is another one thinking his followers represent a huge part of public opinion.

I still can't see how the pool of potential voters for PP is anywhere like large enough. She's looking for people who feel strongly about the issue but a fair few of those find her overall politics (and often her personality) quite repellent.

So not this then

Well, maybe Posie won't even get the chance to stand against Starmer.

He’s not moving, a bit misleading

As for the last line obviously many do like her, given cut through and following

NoWordForFluffy · 15/02/2024 22:25

HPFA · 15/02/2024 21:23

I think the Twitter person is another one thinking his followers represent a huge part of public opinion.

I still can't see how the pool of potential voters for PP is anywhere like large enough. She's looking for people who feel strongly about the issue but a fair few of those find her overall politics (and often her personality) quite repellent.

It isn't just about getting votes though, it's about having a voice and getting the message across (with leaflets and billboards as well as the spoken word).

HPFA · 15/02/2024 22:28

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 21:29

So not this then

Well, maybe Posie won't even get the chance to stand against Starmer.

He’s not moving, a bit misleading

As for the last line obviously many do like her, given cut through and following

Of course some like her.

But on current polls where people are asked to list their priorities "transgender rights" scores about 1%. That's a small pool to be looking for votes and if you're quite a divisive figure even among that 1%......

If she gets a load of votes in the election then obviously I'll be proved wrong but I just don't see the data.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 22:31

HPFA · 15/02/2024 22:28

Of course some like her.

But on current polls where people are asked to list their priorities "transgender rights" scores about 1%. That's a small pool to be looking for votes and if you're quite a divisive figure even among that 1%......

If she gets a load of votes in the election then obviously I'll be proved wrong but I just don't see the data.

It’s not about votes for everyone.

More headlines and discussion

She gets airtime and people joining in

On ‘transgender rights’ polls I care but not about their rights. I do about women’s rights though so the question is a crap one to start with.

Garlickit · 15/02/2024 22:36

HPFA · 15/02/2024 22:28

Of course some like her.

But on current polls where people are asked to list their priorities "transgender rights" scores about 1%. That's a small pool to be looking for votes and if you're quite a divisive figure even among that 1%......

If she gets a load of votes in the election then obviously I'll be proved wrong but I just don't see the data.

That's quite funny, intentionally or not! I never give "transgender rights" as a priority, because they aren't. Transgender rights are for biology denialists to worry about.

I do, however, give "women's rights" a tick.

Amazing that this is still being framed as about "trans rights" and "anti-trans". If the people who burble such phrases ever stopped to string two thoughts together, they'd see that they're saying the "trans" agenda is anti-women and they believe in a supremacy of rights over women.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2024 22:37

Garlickit · 15/02/2024 22:36

That's quite funny, intentionally or not! I never give "transgender rights" as a priority, because they aren't. Transgender rights are for biology denialists to worry about.

I do, however, give "women's rights" a tick.

Amazing that this is still being framed as about "trans rights" and "anti-trans". If the people who burble such phrases ever stopped to string two thoughts together, they'd see that they're saying the "trans" agenda is anti-women and they believe in a supremacy of rights over women.

Exactly I care and even I’d lump it at the bottom

That question is about men

It’s also using language from gender ideology which I don’t want

The whole thing needs to be re written for women

Crankywiddershins · 16/02/2024 06:59

Excellent thread and best of luck to Posie. I'm absolutely loving everyone coming along to say what a bad idea it is and how she's splitting the left wing vote/ wasting her time and money/ should do xy or z instead. So much disapproving and infantilising her decision! It really smacks of desperation, anyone who really doesn't care, or wants her to make a fool of herself would step aside. I mean, how old is the saying "never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake"? The fact that so many are offering her"advice" (if shut up and go away can be categorised as such) is actually quite positive.

Emotionalsupportviper · 16/02/2024 07:30

HPFA · 15/02/2024 21:23

I think the Twitter person is another one thinking his followers represent a huge part of public opinion.

I still can't see how the pool of potential voters for PP is anywhere like large enough. She's looking for people who feel strongly about the issue but a fair few of those find her overall politics (and often her personality) quite repellent.

She is very "in-your-face" - but she's had to be.

Look where being sweet and polite has got women.

If she was a man everyone would be saying "He doesn't take and shit from anyone! You know where you stand with him. he won't let himself be bullied. Great bloke!"

Bur she's a woman, so that means she's stroppy and opinionated .

BIossomtoes · 16/02/2024 09:39

I can’t see how she’s splitting the left wing vote when she’s endorsed by the likes of Tommy Robinson.

SinnerBoy · 16/02/2024 09:55

She has told him that she doesn't want his support, or anything to do with him. She can't help it if he tries to latch on, to keep his grifts going, can she?

Snowypeaks · 16/02/2024 09:59

It's a cross-party issue. It will split all the parties' opinions and hopefully their votes. But the point of KJK standing as a candidate for the Party of Women against Keir Starmer is to put women's rights front and centre in the national consciousness. Winning the seat would be a very unexpected bonus.

SinnerBoy · 16/02/2024 10:05

Well, I'd be surprised if she won, but I can see POW getting some council seats. The main thing is that she and POW will get media attention and the chance to get their message across to the wider public, as mentioned previously.

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