Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

[ResisterRex]

Exclusive in Diva, following a reception at a LGBT+ Labour event in Parliament on 29 Jan:

https://diva-magazine.com/2024/01/29/exclusive-keir-starmer-lgbtqia-rights/

"“We’ll strengthen the law, so every category of hate crime is treated as an aggravated offence,” Starmer said. “We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care. We’ll modernise the Gender Recognition Act. We’ll implement a full, trans-inclusive, ban on all forms of conversion therapy. We fully support the view that conversion therapy is psychologically damaging abuse.”

“We are committed to a decade of national renewal and will work with all the organisations in this room tonight so every child can feel proud and confident in who they are, to stand up for LGBT+ rights at home and abroad and to get Britain’s future back.”

The mention of children is unclear but must have a background to the full speech? LGBT Labour hasn't tweeted about it but others have. Rayner and Dodds also in attendance.

https://x.com/djrm94/status/1752057964767101041?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://x.com/stevenatkins/status/1752256944843162016?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/anuox/status/1752094930074325420?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

I see no indications Labour are planning to do anything differently; I think they are proposing to implement a policy the Tories have dilly dallyed on.

I think, for once, you're right! 😃Except I'd probably say, kicked into the long grass, rather than dilly-dallied. As long as that 'guidance' continues to bracket the T+ with the LGB, there's going to be a problem.

How does that work then? It says "to or from" trans. Therapists and parents can equally be convicted for child says I'm trans, BANG they are transitioned

I think they are suggesting what anyone sane would, which is that therapy with gender questioning people should only be done by qualified practitioners (so no church based nonsense) and should take a neutral approach based on patient needs (not pro or anti trans in this case).

It seems to be bordering on a conspiracy theory to suggest this is an elaborate trojan horse being used by Labour for the aim of transing children without their parents consent.

Anything other than affirmation is views as conversion therapy in TRA land. You keep ignoring this fact.

I think TRA land is as relevant to the real world as MRA land or flat-earther land so I'm not sure why you want me to consider what they think? They've blown it, the horse has bolted with Isla Bryson and Karen White, nothing is happening because TRAs say so.

We are talking about the leader of Labour making 0.01% of the population a major priority to appear as if he is progressive and fighting for social justice.

And here you are claiming only the Tories talk about it. And somehow I am the funny one.

Dearie me. That's quite some DARVO. He barely talks about it (unlike the Tories)

He talks to TRAs but otherwise it’s ’no one is talking about it’ when it comes to women

So he’s pretty shit really. Like many others, Lammy and co

Ignoring women is no great thing

https://www.ft.com/content/0832548c-3750-4500-82c2-455e6f92faa7

The Tories are deliberately using this issue to drive divide

Do you know what DARVO means or have you seen it on here and thought you'll just throw it around? Humor me, where is the reversal? We can go into the others, but let's start with that one.

Imagine at the probable end of tenure the torys find a thing to use as a stick to beat labour with.
And labour just keep refusing to listen to women or engage their brain cells to realise this is a vote loser.

And
It seems to be bordering on a conspiracy theory to suggest this is an elaborate trojan horse being used by Labour for the aim of transing children without their parents consent.

No idea if it's a conspiracy theory but L,G and B are saying the same as us 6 and our socks.
Are you going to go school them too?

Well I'm convinced us wims got this one wrong

https://x.com/uklabour/status/1753078253202596012?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

And now I'm having flashbacks to 1979 and the enforced summer holiday with a man we saw twice a year if lucky. that year was a camping holiday with my dad's new girlfriend and her kids. Luckily his new girlfriend was nice! The one that came after not so much! My dad didn't care either way.

But I digress! You're right about Similarly, I might be economically better off under a Labour government, but there's no need to kid myself that the Labour party has any great commitment to making that happen.

And as Labour really don't have anything about them at the moment that makes me think they have women's interests at heart, and I don't see any policies or promises that would lead me to indicate that being in power would suddenly help them see the error of their ways, and I see nothing about their other policies that would have a dramatic effect on the daily lives of the majority of people and make their lives better than they currently are I'm having trouble finding any reason why I should push women under the bus just to get rid of the Tories.

So, the Labour Party is tweeting speeches from ex-conservative, ex Stonewall UK Iain Anderson.

Has Karen Ingala Smith been allowed to join the Labour party yet, or is she still persona non grata for running female-only domestic violence services?

That's okay, they don't need her because Jess Philips graciously reads out the list she compiles every year.

We are talking about the leader of Labour making 0.01% of the population a major priority to appear as if he is progressive and fighting for social justice. [REVERSE VICTIM AND OFFENDER ie claim Laboyr are doing what the tories are doing]

And here you are claiming only the Tories talk about it [DENY]. And somehow I am the funny one [ATTACK in a p.a. way]

It's Penfold! Imagine him popping up again.

I was most of the way through before I realised that the staring eyes were supposed to be authentic.

I kept expecting it to switch to a Michael Spicer in a Room Next Door sketch.

Boiledbeetle

Hugs! Sorry to bring back unpleasantly vivid memories.

I really really tried, but after 19 seconds of him gurning I had too much ick going on I'm sorry I had to stop watching. That man makes my skin crawl.

That guy is such a gigantic arse.

To be fair I did have a knickerbockerglory on that holiday which I still have fond memories of! It was massive!

Kiers out of date the kids are going GC now. Dd aged 15 had pshe today on this they were shown a video about transition etc and she announced her view was girls need their own spaces end of. Men can do what they want but this is non negotiable. I have been educating her. Dd is one of the popular confident girls so was able to speak out. All the other girls agreed. Teacher said “I’m not allowed to give my view on this girls but Im so pleased with you all”.

Here's the TL;DL(isten) of Anderson.

"Labour have plans for the economy <namedrops frontbenchers> and businesses will like all these plans. <smiles hugely> Next week Keir is hosting a massive knees-up of a conference for business-owners, and I'm going!"

Jess Philips graciously reads out the list she compiles every year

Replete with her own additions

Are you on glue? 'nothing is happening because TRAs say so'? So the GRA, the farce at Edinburgh Rape Crisis, Annex B in the NHS, the BACP having their ethics reviewed by Sophie Grace Chappell, just off the top of my head .

Women are self excluding from rape support they need because of TRA led policy that allows males into refuges and support groups. Women in hospital are sharing bays with males with special feelings without their consent, because TRAs wrote the policy which mandates that, and staff are forced to gaslight patients who question it. Girls are self excluding from sports and school toilets because boys can take them over as long as the boys say the magic words, because schools are competing for rainbow flag awards instead of safeguarding children.

What ivory tower do you inhabit, to be able to say that TRAs are irrelevant to the real world? Your luxury beliefs are unimaginable to me.