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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How to respond: been asked what sex I was assigned at birth

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Needapadlockonmyfridge · 24/01/2024 17:53

I recently signed up to have blood tests privately (vitamin levels etc).

On the health questionnaire, one of the questions asked what sex I was assigned at birth.

Scientific company should surely do better than this. Not sure it is worth flagging up with them. I suppose, at least they didn't ask gender, but still.... Disappointing.

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Throwawayme · 24/01/2024 17:54

Honestly I'd put a line through assigned and write observed. This nonsense pisses me off.

whenindoubtgotothelibrary · 24/01/2024 17:56

I'd find another healthcare provider!

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 24/01/2024 18:01

Throwawayme · 24/01/2024 17:54

Honestly I'd put a line through assigned and write observed. This nonsense pisses me off.

Unfortunately I have already paid up.

I am minded to email them but don't know if IBU or overthinking this. But it did jump out at me.

Edit: sorry have quoted thd wrong post - this was in response to "find another health care provider":)

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Needapadlockonmyfridge · 24/01/2024 18:02

Throwawayme · 24/01/2024 17:54

Honestly I'd put a line through assigned and write observed. This nonsense pisses me off.

It's on an app with the two choices so I can't register my eye roll that way unfortunately!

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LWSnow · 24/01/2024 18:11

I'd email them and ask them to explain what it means

LWSnow · 24/01/2024 18:12

They'll probably have a feedback form, I'd put my complaint about the language on that

IamRoyFuckingKent · 24/01/2024 18:13

Email them - we need to keep challenging this bullshit.

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 24/01/2024 18:22

Thank you.
I wondered if I was overreacting but it rankles.
I will email them.

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LauraNorda · 24/01/2024 18:23

Assigned by whom?

maslinpan · 24/01/2024 18:27

You might hope that a medical company would be aware that sex is observable in the womb from very early on. But maybe gender scans are all a complete fabrication, who knew?

LondonLass91 · 24/01/2024 19:01

LWSnow · 24/01/2024 18:11

I'd email them and ask them to explain what it means

Yes that's what I would do.

soupfiend · 24/01/2024 19:06

maslinpan · 24/01/2024 18:27

You might hope that a medical company would be aware that sex is observable in the womb from very early on. But maybe gender scans are all a complete fabrication, who knew?

Sex scans

OP is there no option to write in it - sex is not assigned at birth. Is it a drop down box or something?

vorhees · 24/01/2024 19:15

Throwawayme · 24/01/2024 17:54

Honestly I'd put a line through assigned and write observed. This nonsense pisses me off.

What if it's a masculine woman who prefers stereotypical male clothing and haircuts and on the surface appears male but identifies as female still? You can't always observe gender

ArabellaScott · 24/01/2024 19:18

vorhees · 24/01/2024 19:15

What if it's a masculine woman who prefers stereotypical male clothing and haircuts and on the surface appears male but identifies as female still? You can't always observe gender

'assigned' or 'observed' precede 'at birth'.

LaughingCat · 24/01/2024 19:36

Sorry, I don’t understand the question. Why are you upset? I work in healthcare communications so here’s the background.

  1. Lots of people, when asked their sex, give the gender they identify as instead
  2. Blood test results can have different ranges applicable to those born either male or female
  3. That confusion between what gender someone has told them and the sex-specific results can lead clinicians to give incorrect advice or make the wrong treatment decisions.

So…why? Why are you upset they want to know? It’s not about you…it’s about making sure that someone with a cervix who identifies as male doesn’t get ruled out for cervical cancer because they haven’t flipping told the doctor they have one.

What am I missing here?

Rightsraptor · 24/01/2024 19:36

You could look at the dictionary definition of 'assign' for inspiration. I just did, and the definitions involve picking, choosing etc so basically human agency is involved. It did strike me when I was looking though, that the gender ideologues have introduced this terminology so they can normalise gender reassignment. After all, that's only putting two more letters in front of assignment: easy no? See how easy it is to reassign your sex!

But the truth is that no human agency or choice is involved. Sex is determined at conception by chromosomal make up. The midwife recognises the genital configuration (not rocket science) and pronounces accordingly. We all know this.

So what can you do? If there's a free text box, you could write them a little essay about the error of their ways. Or, as others have said, email them about their idiocy. But please do it because each such email is so important.

LaughingCat · 24/01/2024 19:41

LauraNorda · 24/01/2024 18:23

Assigned by whom?

Assigned by your genetics at birth. Your genetic code assigns you either an X and a Y chromosome or two X chromosomes and they determine your sex. It is assigned to you at birth, even if you choose to identify another way as you grow older.

Rightsraptor · 24/01/2024 19:42

@LaughingCat - you are missing the ridiculous concept of the 'assignment' of sex. See my previous post. Lots of people do not give the 'gender they identify as' at all, unless you work in an area that serves a particularly insane woke student crowd or something. Most people don't consider 'gender identity' at all or even know what's meant by it. Most of us just know what sex we are.

Rightsraptor · 24/01/2024 19:43

Laughing cat - you need to learn what assign actually means.

NotMyFirstChoiceofName · 24/01/2024 19:46

I don’t know if I should be scared by the fact that so many posters on this seem to think that a baby has no sex until its born !

ArabellaScott · 24/01/2024 19:53

LaughingCat · 24/01/2024 19:41

Assigned by your genetics at birth. Your genetic code assigns you either an X and a Y chromosome or two X chromosomes and they determine your sex. It is assigned to you at birth, even if you choose to identify another way as you grow older.

Sex is determined at conception.

The use of 'gender assigned at birth' is an ideological phrase intended to suggest that sex is malleable, and that HCPs are in charge of 'assigning' a gender, rather than observing sex.

Circularargument · 24/01/2024 20:06

You answer the question. Really not hard. But you don't want to hear that, obviously.

QueenOfThorns · 24/01/2024 20:10

LaughingCat · 24/01/2024 19:41

Assigned by your genetics at birth. Your genetic code assigns you either an X and a Y chromosome or two X chromosomes and they determine your sex. It is assigned to you at birth, even if you choose to identify another way as you grow older.

Are you sure you work in healthcare communications?

StephanieSuperpowers · 24/01/2024 20:11

I work in healthcare communications so here’s the background.

You work in healthcare communications and you think babies acquire a sex when born? You're just messing with us, aren't you?

Rosieposie200 · 24/01/2024 20:17

LaughingCat · 24/01/2024 19:36

Sorry, I don’t understand the question. Why are you upset? I work in healthcare communications so here’s the background.

  1. Lots of people, when asked their sex, give the gender they identify as instead
  2. Blood test results can have different ranges applicable to those born either male or female
  3. That confusion between what gender someone has told them and the sex-specific results can lead clinicians to give incorrect advice or make the wrong treatment decisions.

So…why? Why are you upset they want to know? It’s not about you…it’s about making sure that someone with a cervix who identifies as male doesn’t get ruled out for cervical cancer because they haven’t flipping told the doctor they have one.

What am I missing here?

Well said