Another GC Employment Tribunal: Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #5

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Roz Adams was employed by Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (ERCC) as a counsellor. She is claiming constructive dismissal for Gender Critical (GC) beliefs. The CEO of ERCC is a well known transwoman known for, among other things, controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There's live tweeting from https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets. There's an informative substack here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

This post explains how to get access to watch the hearing: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2?page=24&reply=132419912

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
ERCC or R: Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, the respondent
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

RA gave evidence over 15-18 January 2024.

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024 (on behalf of RA)
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katy McTernan (referred to both as KT and KM): 22-23 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Miren Sagues (MS): 24 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katie Horburgh (KH): 24 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis
Thread #2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2
Thread #3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4990903-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-3
Thread #4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4991883-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-4

NC is really going for all ERCCs batshit gender policies here isn't she?

NC just finished her closing statement.

Mr Hayes starting now.

Is this Mr Hayes speaking now?

I'd forgotten about DH's voice and delivery. I'm feeling sleepy.

Sorry, I see above that it is

McCloud as well?

DH - David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent

unless he says something amazing this is going to be painful

Snoring!

I think it is SO important that NC is drawing out the issues relating to GRCs, the judge's bench book etc, establishing in court (hopefully) once again that Stonewall law is not the law, that it is neither legal/required/fair to pander only to the wishes of trans and trans activists.
To misquote Pink Floyd, "it's just another brick (out of) the (Stone) wall.

Poor bastard...I've already zoned him out.

I'm now eating the stone cold fish finger sandwich i made 90 minutes ago!

@Justabaker there seems to be a collection of Australians on https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5041989-keeping-up-the-fight

DH is arguing about "trans inclusive". I wonder if he's going to define that.

ughhhhhhh zzzzzzzz

NC providing percussion accompaniment

she must go through keyboards at a rate of knots

Can we do a whip round and buy her a silent keyboard.

wittering on about the green party

Id put my hand in my pocket for that!

I can't follow him at all. Is he doing a technical legal something-or-other first to respond to NC, or is this his actual case on behalf of his client?

something about the county court in the city of Londaon ????

Does he get paid per syllable??

Someone wake me up when he's done.

Gives me a 404 error.

No need for a poison apple to put anyone to sleep.....