Another GC employment tribunal. Adam's vs Edinburgh Rape Crsis

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Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

Every time I read this stuff I am reminded of a nasty case some years back where a woman struggled out of a shrubbery in a park, suffering from a violent rape, pleading for help, and the first man she came across hauled her back in the bushes and raped her again.
MW, the ERCC, and to extend the matter, Brighton Rape Support whatever their title is, seem hell bent on repeating the trauma, applying a psychological equivalent of rape to the women who come to them for help. Put up with our mindrape or go and suffer alone, we don't care. We want you to suffer.

It's getting more and more difficult to believe that it's not all about abusing women. Their treatment of RA was appallingly unprofessional and very much seemed to be trying to scold her for being disobedient. Even though she was focused only on the needs of the service users.

I suppose she was very silly to think the organisation was about helping women.

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https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/census-results/at-a-glance/ethnicity/

I agree that you can't screen people on the basis of beliefs but... how do you know it worked out well for all the other women? Maybe some of those Asian women had experienced racist abuse as part of their trauma, or as a background to their trauma that made them more vulnerable to domestic violence experienced in their own community? If so and if this woman did openly or aggressively express her racism could they speak up? Did they still feel safe?

I'm not saying you made the wrong decision at all. There must be many factors, if she didn't express her beliefs aggressively or if the other women were able to change her mind easily then yes it could all work out well. But that this is a dilemma and it is complex and something that people need to be able to discuss openly and honestly at work so they can make a good decision. Like Roz Adams tried to.

@Brefugee morning, very valid comment, i perhaps could have worded it better. I have to be careful about not giving too much detail.

We had an emergency practitioner meeting to see if workers would accept her, then consulted the occupants of the refuge in question, they were advised they could say no they wanted to accept her.

she was warned not to express any racist views.

It worked out well.

I agree. I've come to believe that Wadhwa enjoys seeing women suffer.

Cross-posted. I'm glad you were able to discuss it! You've answered my post as well.

Just admitted and waiting for proceedings to start.

Wadhwa cares about Wadhwa. That's all. Any women who get in the way of Wadhwa's self-image are cannin fodder.

Argh - keep getting message saying can't access webcam or microphone (on computer and on phone) - anyone have any ideas about what's going wrong? Sorry!

A couple of us have had an issue where cam/mic are 'in use by another process' but a reboot has sorted it, worth a try?

That would be the best case scenario, I think.

Not just a lay person. Calling people White Feminists with capital letters and associating individual people - the people who have complained or disagreed with you or asked for something you don't want them to have - with an academic theory as if they are just component parts of some social process so their needs and opinions don't count and can be ignored, is even worse than just being generally rude about white feminists.

thanks @Karensalright - sorry i didn't mean to jump all over you. You are doing the work that needs to be done, and of course, i should have assumed that you know what you're doing. My apologies.

@ArabellaScott I think the use of "white feminism" like this is like the use of "cis". They are able to say "oh you silly dimwits, it is academically correct and robust terminology, it's your fault if you're too stupid/uneducated to understand". Then it passes into "common speech" and we're up against it (as we are with "cis")

I really really wonder what the end game is here. Or what the actual "thinking" is. Why don't you want to have some support for women who are women and not women who are men? In my naivety i have always thought 3rd spaces are the answer: one space for men, one space for women, and another for the men-who-say-they're-women and the women-who-support-them. Is that not enough women in the 3rd space? Are there really that many men who hate all women so much that they want to abuse traumatised women EVEN more?

I realise as i write that, that the answer has been given in the revelation that the TW in women's prisons balloon test was an Actual Tactic. God I'm depressed. We 2nd wavers took a bit of time out to rest and it all went to rat-shit.

Calling someone a 'White Feminist' is just calling them a racist, then? If it's not referring to their skin colour.

Are there really that many men who hate all women so much that they want to abuse traumatised women EVEN more?

It doesn't take that many. Those who do will gravitate to positions where they can access vulnerable women, and it only takes one male to distress/exclude/attack/traumatise/smear many, many women.

Calling someone a 'White Feminist' is just calling them a racist, then? If it's not referring to their skin colour.

I think so. I haven't really paid enough attention to it. A bit like White Saviour Complex - mostly because i don't recognise myself in those terms. I should have been more alert, i think.

One male in a women's prison. How many traumatised women?
One male running a rape crisis service. How many traumatised women?
One male in a women's changing room. How many traumatised women?

The constant protest that there are only a 'tiny number' of males is irrelevant. The impact is disproportionate, precisely because of the imbalance between the sexes.

I wonder if the reason many of us were not aware of this case coming up, is because they didn't need to crowdfund for it. Rather than anything underhanded.

@Brefugee no need to apologise quite right to query my post.

Academic feminism mostly should be avoided like the plague it has repeatedly caused silly none real world arguments and put women's rights groupings (such as GC) asunder with in fighting about the hierarchy of oppression, and intersectionality bla bla bla.

Thanks lipbalm - Chrome on phone seems to have sorted it for now and will reboot my computer at lunchtime!

I agree. I've come to believe that Wadhwa enjoys seeing women suffer.

Also the truly nasty, gaslighting way they twisted "trauma informed" to justify "re-educating" rape survivors who didn't want to be counselled by or share sessions with males.

Excellent point by RA re inclusivity - 'to my understanding to include someone you don't have to adopt their beliefs.'

It's a modern-day witch burning. In a Rape Crisis! I'm glad it's being exposed for the lump of misogynistic bile that it is, but how did we get here in the first place? Did senior management remove their brains before applying to the charity sector?