Podcast for schools on 'Trans Euphoria' in children

[RachelWalshsDog]

I've some across this podcast on twitter. It's by a male trans educational psychologist ,and seems to be a whole series for other educational psychologists and schools promoting gender ideology.

I've only listened to a bit of a couple of them so far, it seems to be using the concept of gender identity and linking to this to lots of 'research' and 'evidence.'

I'm going to try to listen to a bit more if I can bare it. I'm concerned that psychologists in schools are so openly promoting this dangerous nonsense.

Has anyone else come across this?

https://x.com/ClassroomPsych/status/1744734724868989172?s=20

Surely almost everyone can agree that whatever is causing this late-onset transitioning male to claim a cross sex identity it has nothing whatsoever to do with autistic teenage girls experiencing gender distress at the onset of adolescence?

Cora’s male experience of transgenderism is irrelevant to a teen girl’s experience of transgenderism.

Dr Az Hakeem (psychiatrist & psychotherapist) might also be worth contacting (he’s written two useful, easy to read books on trans and detrans) for signposting? Seems like
Ed Psych deffo has a gendery problem that needs to be resolved in conjunction with the government schools guidance and the Cass Review?

Perhaps Hilary Cass needs an email too?

This is extremely disturbing.

How can this be appropriate, allowed and un questioned?

Thank you for attempting to listen to this horrific shitshow.

He's referring to a study on SCHOOL EXPERIENCES OF GENDER EUPHORIA.

Are you going to speak directly to the school about this? Schools aren’t allowed to teach gender ideology as fact.

The "study" appears to be of people sending in photos representing their "euphoria". There's an awful lot of using their "professional role" as an excuse to promote the transitioning of other people's children in schools. 🙄

Disappointing to see so many deletions on this thread. But I suppose it is incredibly revealing so some will be very keen to censor what's exposed.

Pun intended?!

Ha no. I'd gone on to write about someone I've come across elsewhere who's now giving cpd to Leas but it wasn't quite the same and hard to describe the situation. Needs another thread

Basically, it feels that for as many "outside providers" that pop up and get into schools with their resources, there's x100 more 'professionals' who are doing things like writing books, podcasts, teaching trainees and working in schools.

The school's guidance around big using outside providers is the tip of the iceberg.

*not using

There us a really good clear letter here @YouJustDoYou that's been shared on twitter today that explains to headteacher's why as a parent you do not want your child exposed to gender ideology.

https://x.com/FamEdTrust/status/1744979862346191077?s=20

I agree with this.
It's the teachers, psychologists and social workers who are within the system who are going to perpetuate this.

At least some social workers are speaking up. The Ed Psych world is silent while Cora et al hold court.

https://www.buzzsprout.com/993319/8550182-an-authentic-gender-journey-with-dr-cora-sargeant

Cora and I discuss gender and alternatives to the bimodal system of male and female identities. She discusses her personal gender journey as a transgender woman and talks about how her experiences influence her practice as an Educational Psychologist.

So sexist.

And the recommended reading is full of the usuals.

talks about how her experiences influence her practice

And so concerning too.

I am stunned at the number of comments being judged NFP Perhaps it could be explained specifically why, if it bad language or really criminal style comments promoting violence I will understand, does anyone know why there are so many comments prevented

@gregaliara I think some of the deleted posts were removed for using a common three letter abbreviation for people who might be physically attracted to children, there's an airport in Spain with the same three letters... I can do you a riddle if that would help?
The bigger reason is that we have some readers who like to throw their toys out of the pram to try and silence us. I suppose they think it will make it harder for the newly curious or recently peaked to follow if some posts are missing, but there's always a friendly terf around to explain.

I think some of the deleted posts were removed for using a common three letter abbreviation for people who might be physically attracted to children, there's an airport in Spain with the same three letters

The airport abbreviation refers to men who are aroused by the thought of themselves as women. Nothing to do with being attracted to children.

Probably depends who was on duty at the time someone reported a post. The acronym appears on this thread in later posts.

Just noticed this.
CS is very influential in the world of contemporary EP research. Cora puts themself forward to do the vivas of EP' research when the topic is gender related, which provides an opportunity to influence what gets published.
There is a EP who worked with me who researched the experiences of 9 trans kids in school. The findings were mostly positive with the kids feeling school had been a good experience for them. At the viva, CS suggested that she hadn't done the analysis properly and her 'cis heteronormative privilege' meant she wasn't sensitive enough to spot all the adversity the participants had faced. A lot of pressure was put on her to redo the analysis. She held her ground and the second examiner must have sided with her, as she passed. They did make her add a paragraph to the end of the thesis saying that the analysis could have overlooked some negative experience from both the researcher and participants, all potentially failing to acknowledge cis heterosexual culture.

I wonder how much research CS has influenced/ biased?

That's interesting @Brainworm . It repeats the pattern regularly noted on here that adults with a self interest wedge themselves in powerful positions to mute critical thinking, safeguarding challenges etc. Frankly that level of self involvement should bar someone from influence - just as the Nolan Principles of Public Life state under Integrity:

"Holders of public office must avoid placing themselves under any obligation to people or organisations that might try inappropriately to influence them in their work. They should not act or take decisions in order to gain financial or other material benefits for themselves, their family, or their friends. They must declare and resolve any interests and relationships".

Allowing the self interested to censor the rest of society about this issue is why we're in this mess

I am a current ed psych
It is bad on initial training. Many of the young trainees are big into social justice and as relatively privileged middle class 25-30 year old females many don't initially see the bigger picture.

It's not as bad as you think on the ground in my area. It was, 5 years ago, but things are changing. There are a few uncritical supporters and a growing swell of EPs who can see that the cohort is already highly vulnerable and that this should lead to questioning for safeguarding purposes. Cass helped enormously, and most services - well mine at least - would not support EPs advising outside of government guidance, so the December guidance has also helped.

I can't speak for other areas.

That's good to hear.
Presumably even the most captured of EPs & others won't be able to ignore the catastrophic state of these children's mental health for ever.

I work in a SEN school where more than 30% of the kids are on the autism spectrum, among other things.

We don't have a single gender dysphoric kid that we know of and never have the whole time I've been working there. How could this be the case with so many kids on the spectrum? (It seems accepted that GD is common in kids on the AS)

We don't teach it. It's our policy. It appears nowhere in our schemes of work for PSHE.

I think it's the case that of those who experience gender distress, a significant proportion are autistic, rather than a significant proportion of autistic people experience gender distress.

Also, there can be significant differences between those who consider themselves to be trans and those who end up in gender clinics.

In the research I referred to, I think all of the participants had identities along the 'demi femme' and non binary lines, rather than trans boy/girl lines. I think that autistic young people tend to me more binary in their trans identities.

My take, is that amongst those who consider themselves 'trans' lies a heady mix of a range of personality differences and mental health issues. I think for many, their trans identities are a symptom of other things entirely unrelated to gender. This sets them apart from those with gender dysphoria, whereby gender is a significant cause of their distress,

Also, and I've always felt this is significant, In the send school I teach at a large number of the pupils have autism and also learning difficulties which can extend to severe difficulties around social awareness and interaction.

Some are not aware of the social construct of "gender."

The less able they are form a cognitive and social interaction perspective, the less they demonstrate anything around identity and preferences with clothes. They don't dress up for example.

We've only ever had one gender questioning child, many years ago, and he was quite able socially.

It's the children who are more socially and cognitively able who are autistic who are most vulnerable to this, as they're in mainstream, accessing mainstream content and capable of being influenced by online and peer ideas.

Which has always proved to me it's a socially driven idea.

We do see some who are more socially able who are very into cats or dinosaurs who have to be reminded when it's appropriate to play that game and that teachers and children don't appreciate being head butted/ rubbed.

Good to hear there is some recognition and push back on the ground from EPs.

My experience has been observing how influential CS is. They are regarded as the expert on gender in the EP profession.

The EP profession seems to have been captured by lived experience narratives replacing evidence and then using this to be activists.

EPs see their role as 'inclusion' which was meant to be around children with disability as part of their role but has taken on a wider social justice role and is the first principle being applied when considering the Trans kids issue. If you look at all the EP research in this area it's all about 'inclusion' not about child development, safeguarding, identity development, mental health, autism.

All gender 'research' EPs are doing is about inclusion. Like the one above mentioned. Most supervised by CS.

My worry is that the only EPs questioning this are likely to be the old retired ones like me.