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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rachel Meade - it's a win!

692 replies

BreadInCaptivity · 09/01/2024 12:35

x.com/legalfeminist/status/1744697995822526961?s=46&t=88gZvdSnTk70X8b2ZUPZtA

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SweetChilliChickenWrap · 10/01/2024 21:27

This jumped out for me in the BBC article:

gender-critical - where one believes that sex is a fact of biology

Well, what the fuck else is it? Honestly it's all barking mad.

Froodwithatowel · 10/01/2024 21:50

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 10/01/2024 21:17

It’s fantastic news but I do wonder just how many more of these cases will be needed before organisations step back from the madness.

The lobby trainers have literally convinced these organisations that the law is wrong and shameful, and it is good and righteous to do 'better' and 'act ahead of the law'.

That's what has to be undone. And it is going to eventually require deprogramming type strategies.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/01/2024 22:38

Hang on, SWE’s lawyer was Robin Moira white?

how did I miss THAT?
https://x.com/svphillimore/status/1745210652078063971?s=46

https://x.com/svphillimore/status/1745210652078063971?s=46

Signalbox · 10/01/2024 22:50

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/01/2024 22:38

Hang on, SWE’s lawyer was Robin Moira white?

how did I miss THAT?
https://x.com/svphillimore/status/1745210652078063971?s=46

I just came on to ask this? How on earth have SWE ended up with trans activist counsel? RMW’s interpretation of the law is completely biased. I wonder if that’s why SWE haven’t put out a statement of regret like WCC have done. Are they being advised (badly) to appeal? I kind of hope they do appeal (although I wouldn’t wish the stress on poor Rachel) as a second present on manifestation would be a real boost.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/01/2024 22:53

RMW lurks round these parts. Perhaps we’ll get an explanation.

i suspect it won’t include the words “my” or “competence” but might include “Foran” and “bundlesarehard”

donquixotedelamancha · 10/01/2024 23:16

Hang on, SWE’s lawyer was Robin Moira white?

LMAO. No wonder they got their arse handed to them so comprehensively. Does @RobinMoiraWhite ever win cases? Is it just the ones relating to women's rights she always loses?

Maybe we should start crowdfunding on behalf of our opponents to ensure they always hire her to represent them?

DrBlackbird · 10/01/2024 23:29

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/01/2024 22:38

Hang on, SWE’s lawyer was Robin Moira white?

how did I miss THAT?
https://x.com/svphillimore/status/1745210652078063971?s=46

In the tweet, she quotes that para 69 of the SWE statement of case stated:

"… those who hold or espouse gender critical beliefs…are unlikely to accept that transgender people… are…biology and reality members of their chosen sex ..."

Apart from the painful grammar, SWE went after Rachel because of this? That she was unlikely to accept that a trans woman is biologically and, in reality, a woman. A view held by like the vast majority of people in the UK.

Karensalright · 10/01/2024 23:29

RMW was not the respondents council in the proceedings. How interesting the plot thickens.

Read the tweet transcript of trials early on tonight. Noted that RM barrister made a surreptitious reference in her summing up, about an issue not included in her representations.

It might have to do with this RMW advice being a problematic issue. It is not considered polite to accuse a fellow barrister of conduct issues, as that would be for the Bar counsel, not a court proceeding.

Before the actual trial there are case review and direction hearings about what will and will not be included at trial, so i doubt we will ever know.

But RMW might find themselves briefs (Cases) somewhat reduced lets hope so

SidewaysOtter · 10/01/2024 23:34

IcakethereforeIam · 10/01/2024 23:25

Janice Turner in the Times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/an-unhappy-ending-for-the-gender-war-telltales-23kn3wsbv

https://archive.ph/7h2J8 archive link

Let's hope she's right about the snitches.

What utter cunts those snitches are.

SidewaysOtter · 10/01/2024 23:35

RMW lurks round these parts. Perhaps we’ll get an explanation.

<waits with bated breath>

GailBlancheViola · 10/01/2024 23:50

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/01/2024 22:38

Hang on, SWE’s lawyer was Robin Moira white?

how did I miss THAT?
https://x.com/svphillimore/status/1745210652078063971?s=46

What the fuck did I just read??????

TheFireflies · 11/01/2024 00:03

SidewaysOtter · 10/01/2024 23:35

RMW lurks round these parts. Perhaps we’ll get an explanation.

<waits with bated breath>

“Bundle, bundle, bundle”

stealtheatingtunnocks · 11/01/2024 00:05

RMW is involved in Allison Bailey’s appeal against Stonewall.

oh good.

Karensalright · 11/01/2024 00:18

stealtheatingtunnocks · 11/01/2024 00:05

RMW is involved in Allison Bailey’s appeal against Stonewall.

oh good.

Oh how do you know?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 11/01/2024 00:21

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Karensalright · 11/01/2024 00:23

SidewaysOtter · 10/01/2024 23:35

RMW lurks round these parts. Perhaps we’ll get an explanation.

<waits with bated breath>

Think the TRA,s are all laying low atm trying to come up with some strategy or other, cannot think what as i feel it is a check mate situation.

Bundlejuice · 11/01/2024 00:34

<just polishing my Bundle name, don't mind me>

(Note namechange for comedy purposes not nefarious ones or sockying)

Ramblingnamechanger · 11/01/2024 01:34

So relieved about this judgement and pleased for Rachel and other people affected by the capture of organisations and professional bodies by the TRAs. But sorry she has had to go through this at all. Congratulations to her and her team

SidewaysOtter · 11/01/2024 02:52

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/01/2024 22:38

Hang on, SWE’s lawyer was Robin Moira white?

how did I miss THAT?
https://x.com/svphillimore/status/1745210652078063971?s=46

Seemingly, RMW’s involvement was at the Fitness to Practice hearing, not the Employment Tribunal.

Sisterpita · 11/01/2024 03:27

RMW’s tweet on the judgement

“Meanwhile, in the Meade case the tribunal found that she didn’t bring her views to work, nor did she identify herself as a social worker on social media, so far from being ‘landmark’ or ‘seismic’ the case tells us little.”
https://x.com/moira_robin/status/1745166154581094428?s=46&t=lJm6-66fq4MtGcwwAsK6Kg

https://x.com/moira_robin/status/1745166154581094428?s=46&t=lJm6-66fq4MtGcwwAsK6Kg

SinnerBoy · 11/01/2024 03:54

I've asked Bobby if the article them has threatened to write, "not for a right wing hate mag," if them will write something compliant with the EA 2010, or some shonky Stonewall propaganda.

VocalHateMovement · 11/01/2024 06:35

SinnerBoy · 10/01/2024 13:16

Surely now someone will name-change to VocalHateMovement?

Your wish is my command!

ArabellaScott · 11/01/2024 07:00

Sisterpita · 11/01/2024 03:27

RMW’s tweet on the judgement

“Meanwhile, in the Meade case the tribunal found that she didn’t bring her views to work, nor did she identify herself as a social worker on social media, so far from being ‘landmark’ or ‘seismic’ the case tells us little.”
https://x.com/moira_robin/status/1745166154581094428?s=46&t=lJm6-66fq4MtGcwwAsK6Kg

😂