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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Asexual spectrum.

176 replies

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 30/12/2023 20:03

I've been informed recently about this.
I thought it was had no sexual feelings, or had sex, but apparently not.
Now I know better.

I absolutely didn't laugh, promise.

The Asexual spectrum.
The Asexual spectrum.
OP posts:
Peasand · 31/12/2023 11:36

I’ve watched Armageddon and Ricky Gervais nailed it, it’s straight people wanting to be special.
No wonder it got backs up

AnActualAsexual · 31/12/2023 11:41

quantumbutterfly · 31/12/2023 01:00

If I collect enough oppression points can I get a set of whine glasses?

Nothing so useful, alas 😔

However, you are entitled to an emoji to symbolise each form of oppression you experience; & instead of having letters after your name you put identities before - or even instead of - it. Tenuous &/or twisted connections totally count too, so if you can get away with claiming to be a queer non-binary trans mixed-race neurodivergent disabled Jew (or whatever identitarian Boggle rolls for you) you can… be very smug online, mostly, I think. And incredibly obnoxious in real life, too, just as a bonus.

AvacadoFieldsForever · 31/12/2023 11:42

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 03:41

What's this got to do with feminism?
Genuine question.
People being asexual affects women's safety how?
Or is it just take the piss out of anything deemed LGBT+ now and anything goes

I think that’s a fair question. I’d say it’s important as it’s redefining what was a very vulnerable and marginalised group who needed care, funding, listening to and support and then widening it to the point where it’s meaningless. We’re finding that policy is being changed because of lobbying from this community - and that seems legit until you realise that could be because of someone in a very safe and secure position having undue influence over policy and funding that affects women.

We’re being shamed and scolded for not supporting the community and yet the community could just mean Brian and Maureen who’ve been having a safe heterosexual relationships for 40 years.

Id also assume that if we have to support the identities of people having no sex then there must also be a push to have us support people having all sorts of kinky extreme sex and I just can’t see why we need to. I don’t want bdsm awareness week at work. I don’t want funding set aside to combat homophobia (in almost 70’countries worldwide it’s still illegal to have same sex relationships) to be siphoned off for kinks.

HPFA · 31/12/2023 11:43

Why would this woman need to explain her "identity" to other people?

She doesn't want to have sex with anyone except her husband and they are both presumably happy with their sex life so why on earth does she feel the need to talk to other people?

I've only ever had sex with my partner of thirty-four years and I'm fine with that so I guess that makes me demisexual? I can't even begin to process why that would make me "queer" or why I would need to tell other people in my life.

ANightmareBeforeChristmas · 31/12/2023 11:49

Why would this woman need to explain her "identity" to other people?

This may be self-perpetuating - i.e. if she receives a sexual advance from someone, it is no longer enough to say "Not interested, I'm a happily married woman" because unless you are 'asexual' or 'demi-sexual' you would of course jump into bed with any random who asked you.

A bit like the mentality of schoolboys 40 years ago, when if you didn't fancy them it was of course because you were a 'lesbian' - why else would you not fancy any male who approached you?

nauticant · 31/12/2023 11:56

Who thought that this site would become a platform for the notorious and bigoted tea critical crowd?

No LGB without the tea!

Boiledbeetle · 31/12/2023 12:09

nauticant · 31/12/2023 11:56

Who thought that this site would become a platform for the notorious and bigoted tea critical crowd?

No LGB without the tea!

I'm the B - I drink Bovril.

JellySaurus · 31/12/2023 12:25

MagpiePi · 31/12/2023 11:30

@JellySaurus
How can you live your life as a lie??!! Be brave and stunning and embrace your authentic ATea self.

How dare you try your nasty conversion therapy on me!

Why isn't there an identity for Marmite drinkers? Waaaaaa😭

The Asexual spectrum.
NotBadConsidering · 31/12/2023 12:29

Tea. What is it about tea?

It’s the go-to analogy for consent for sex.

It the go-to analogy for pointing out the idiocy of asexual as a special identity.

I am sick of constantly hearing tea this, and tea that. The tea just dominates everything else.

SidewaysOtter · 31/12/2023 12:33

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 03:41

What's this got to do with feminism?
Genuine question.
People being asexual affects women's safety how?
Or is it just take the piss out of anything deemed LGBT+ now and anything goes

I’ll phrase it differently since my earlier comment was deleted Hmm

Why do you think we shouldn’t discuss this, or indeed any other topic?

SidewaysOtter · 31/12/2023 12:45

Why isn't there an identity for Marmite drinkers?

Because marmite belongs on toast, not in a cup!

WitchyWitcherson · 31/12/2023 13:26

Not a tea drinker here, but I do drink a lot of herbal teas - does that make me demi-teasual?

MagpiePi · 31/12/2023 13:32

WitchyWitcherson · 31/12/2023 13:26

Not a tea drinker here, but I do drink a lot of herbal teas - does that make me demi-teasual?

Tbf, I would describe mysef as fruit tea-curious.

Oh god, I'm so confused! I might have to go and sit in my car and make a weeping tiktok about how nobody cares about my speshul inner turmoil.

JellySaurus · 31/12/2023 13:37

NotBadConsidering · 31/12/2023 12:29

Tea. What is it about tea?

It’s the go-to analogy for consent for sex.

It the go-to analogy for pointing out the idiocy of asexual as a special identity.

I am sick of constantly hearing tea this, and tea that. The tea just dominates everything else.

It's all about identeateas. How do YOU identeafy?

SidewaysOtter · 31/12/2023 13:45

JellySaurus · 31/12/2023 13:37

It's all about identeateas. How do YOU identeafy?

I am tea critical.

WitchyWitcherson · 31/12/2023 13:47

SidewaysOtter · 31/12/2023 13:45

I am tea critical.

How dare you invalidate my existence! Demi-teasual is a real identitea! Are you one of those tea-exclusive radical feminists I've heard about?

NotBadConsidering · 31/12/2023 13:48

I grew up in a house of tea stereotypes. It had to be the colour of creosote* or it wasn’t real tea. Fruit tea? Imagine trying to drink a cup of hibiscus and pomegranate with your full English. You’d be laughed out of town. No, in my day tea was tea.

But I’ve been really trying to expand the bandwidth of what it means to be a tea drinker, by drinking coffee. There’s nothing to say that coffee can’t be tea. Hot water, milk and brown/black looking stuff. It’s essentially the same, isn’t it? There’s enough shared characteristics to show that tea doesn’t have to stick to those rigid stereotypes we all grew up with. It won’t be long, coffee will be considered tea soon. I don’t see how people are going to police me anyway; what are they going to do, check the contents of my mug? Tea drinkers always say “we can always tell…by the smell, taste, look etc” but I’ve drank coffee in front of them and told them it’s tea and no one has noticed😌.

*True story, my mother, when she comes to visit, brings her own tea bags because the ones I have “aren’t strong enough”🙄.

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 31/12/2023 13:49

SidewaysOtter · 31/12/2023 12:45

Why isn't there an identity for Marmite drinkers?

Because marmite belongs on toast, not in a cup!

I drink marmite when I'm not well, that makes me the mostest speshul and oppressed ever, where's my money badge?

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JanesLittleGirl · 31/12/2023 14:11

I drink tea, coffee, hot chocolate, Bovril, Marmite and hot Ribena but not all at the same time. That would be weird.

NotBadConsidering · 31/12/2023 14:15

JanesLittleGirl · 31/12/2023 14:11

I drink tea, coffee, hot chocolate, Bovril, Marmite and hot Ribena but not all at the same time. That would be weird.

You’re clearly polybeveragous.

BreatheAndFocus · 31/12/2023 14:23

A middle-aged acquaintance is now ‘queer’. I can’t remember her list of identities but it’s something like non-binary, trans masc and a couple more. Anyway, her husband is now queer too. Apparently, he’s part of the asexual umbrella. As said acquaintance posts lurid details about what her and her husband get up to in bed, the idea that he’s asexual is laughable.

People who actually are asexual should be supported if needed, but, yet again, all the rainbow-desperate hangers on have spoilt it. Now asexual means anyone who’s not shagging random people 15 times a day. It’s trivialising and stupid. And the same goes for all the ‘trans’ people who aren’t anything of the sort and just want to join the glitterati.

quantumbutterfly · 31/12/2023 14:41

What are your views on allowing children to have tea?
Should there be an age limit?

WyrdyGrob · 31/12/2023 14:57

Or is it just take the piss out of anything deemed LGBT+ now and anything goes

humour and piss taking are absolutely critical to regulating a well functioning society. It’s no accident that historically, even in what was effectively a dictatorship (absolute monarchy) the court jester had a unique relationship with the monarch.

Boiledbeetle · 31/12/2023 15:18

quantumbutterfly · 31/12/2023 14:41

What are your views on allowing children to have tea?
Should there be an age limit?

Definitely I was drinking tea at 2. By 4 I was making the tea. To be honest the tea was a gateway drink to Camp coffee! These things are not for children! I feel I was forced to make drink choices way too early in life! As such I'm currently only now experiencing my childhood and now I'm drinking Ribena, milk and coke.

JanesLittleGirl · 31/12/2023 15:30

NotBadConsidering · 31/12/2023 14:15

You’re clearly polybeveragous.

I like it. It sounds quite posh.