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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kemi Badenoch to face Women & Equalities Committee’s questions on equalities issues - 13 December 2023

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IwantToRetire · 13/12/2023 17:43

Sorry I am sure there was a thread started in preparation for this but cant find it.

Happy to delete this if someone can give me link as search hasn't.

Still happening I think,

https://committees.parliament.uk/event/19766

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/41208ebe-60ce-4f19-99d4-0edc4e99e384

Parliamentlive.tv

Women and Equalities Committee

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/41208ebe-60ce-4f19-99d4-0edc4e99e384

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IwantToRetire · 21/12/2023 19:03

ridiculous to ponder that children could be removed from parents who practice mainstream religious adherence.

It wouldn't be because they have a religion, but in relation to sexuality, there are hundreds if not thousands of stories of young gay men and young lesbian women who have faced if not actual violence, but harsh treatment and forced conversion.

And although maybe a small % of religious parents it has and does still happen.

Also similar stories from those thinking they must be in the wrong body, is because of "old fashioned" parents have enforce strict gender stereotypes. It might come as a surprise that attitudes like that still exist, but they do. Think Billy Elliot.

So part of watchful waiting can be about whether a young person is working out their sexuality as much, if not more than, whether they are trans.

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Froodwithatowel · 21/12/2023 19:10

And the children removed from loving families and shipped off to abuse in Canada and Australia by middle class busy bodies who believed that children were better off being removed from 'feckless' parents living lives that said busy bodies disapproved of. Also justified as 'removing them from abuse'.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 21/12/2023 19:11

And the Magdalen laundries. Because single women who got pregnant were clearly such bad people it would be better for the children to be placed with “proper” families.

Sisterpita · 21/12/2023 19:12

OldCrone · 21/12/2023 16:47

A more nuanced approach based on the individual child, in relation to changing name, pronouns etc. with parental involvement unless it is a safeguarding issue.

Where did this idea come from that parents can sometimes be excluded if there is a "safeguarding issue"? What sort of "safeguarding issue" would warrant the exclusion of parents?

A child already on the child protection register because a parent is abusing them verbally, physically etc. Sadly not all children have loving parents some are abused beyond belief and the threshold for removing them is high.

In this scenario the school would invoke the safeguarding procedures which brings in the appropriate authorities I.e. referral to SS etc.

IwantToRetire · 21/12/2023 19:40

The children sent to Australia, Canada and other parts of the British Empire were mostly because parents (sometimes single mothers) could not afford to look after their children and were tricked into thinking the authorities, though often religious organisations, were offering temporary help. The fact that these organisations then conspired with the Government to send them to help "whiten" the population of our colonies, is totally different.

And the Magdalen Laundries were again part of an enforced attitude based on religion as to what was a suitable environment that a child should be raised in, let alone the sin of being a single mother.

So yes, people whose ideas of what a family should be, based on religious beliefs, can be very doctrinare.

As said above not all children have loving parents. And I suspect many schools dont even know which those children are because part of the fear means that the child never tells anyone.

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SinnerBoy · 22/12/2023 03:49

Froodwithatowel · Yesterday 14:29

I mean who needs democracy? We've got an extremist lobby with rainbow laces.

You've a good way with words!

TicklishLemur · 18/05/2024 13:11

Kemi Badenoch is just amazing, what a woman! Protecting women and children like that position should ✊

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